Offensive Performance

[rbmac61]

We won. That's most important. Typical first game with young players looking a bit undisciplined, especiall the young point guard. Mick will settle them down.
A long standing concern is the imbalance between offense and defense. Strong and disciplined on D. Mick has a quick hook if they don't give their all on D.
But O. Seems like the same old pass around the perimeter and take a shot. Glad Savannah St got tired to give us easy baskets. But I continue to see way too many 3's when the bigs are standing under the basket. This will need to change when we play the big boys.
Again, its only the first game. Get that O moving and passing. And penetrating. Some the the subs, Jennifer, did a nice job driving to the basket.
That was not a great zone D we faced and there needs to be way more patience in getting the ball inside.

 

[mdchick]

We won. That's most important. Typical first game with young players looking a bit undisciplined, especiall the young point guard. Mick will settle them down.
A long standing concern is the imbalance between offense and defense. Strong and disciplined on D. Mick has a quick hook if they don't give their all on D.
But O. Seems like the same old pass around the perimeter and take a shot. Glad Savannah St got tired to give us easy baskets. But I continue to see way too many 3's when the bigs are standing under the basket. This will need to change when we play the big boys.
Again, its only the first game. Get that O moving and passing. And penetrating. Some the the subs, Jennifer, did a nice job driving to the basket.
That was not a great zone D we faced and there needs to be way more patience in getting the ball inside.

It was a zone that’s the shots you get when you face a zones

 

[rbmac61]

True. If all Mick wants to do against a zone is shoot threes....
We seem to have a really good 3-baller mentality. When you live by the 3 you die by the 3 on those nights when the rim gets tight.
Looking for some aggressive play to drive it inside on a zone. Then dish it off to Clark and big Kyle. They were standing there while the rest pumped from the 3 pt line. I hope I'm wrong but if we go cold against UCLA, X or the Wheat Shockers....we will regret not having developed a penetrating offense against zones.

 

[Helicopter]

We won. That's most important. Typical first game with young players looking a bit undisciplined, especiall the young point guard. Mick will settle them down.
A long standing concern is the imbalance between offense and defense. Strong and disciplined on D. Mick has a quick hook if they don't give their all on D.
But O. Seems like the same old pass around the perimeter and take a shot. Glad Savannah St got tired to give us easy baskets. But I continue to see way too many 3's when the bigs are standing under the basket. This will need to change when we play the big boys.
Again, its only the first game. Get that O moving and passing. And penetrating. Some the the subs, Jennifer, did a nice job driving to the basket.
That was not a great zone D we faced and there needs to be way more patience in getting the ball inside.

It was a packed 2-3 zone... you can complain about the turnovers and transition 3 defense but dude, we want our guys hitting 3's when they are wide open. Cane Broome hit 5 alone from the same spot in the key.

 

[mdchick]

True. If all Mick wants to do against a zone is shoot threes....
We seem to have a really good 3-baller mentality. When you live by the 3 you die by the 3 on those nights when the rim gets tight.
Looking for some aggressive play to drive it inside on a zone. Then dish it off to Clark and big Kyle. They were standing there while the rest pumped from the 3 pt line. I hope I'm wrong but if we go cold against UCLA, X or the Wheat Shockers....we will regret not having developed a penetrating offense against zones.

When teams run a zone it’s extremely hard to rebound especially against us cuz of our size. I would have liked to see Kyle be more agressive on the offensive boards he would have got more points that way, I’m not sure how we ended the game, but at the half we had 20 second chance points compared to their 0. That’s because you can’t rebound the ball defensively well in a zone especially without size.

The only problem i saw on offense was turnovers.

Cane needs to be the guy that settles us down, in the second half he did not do that for us today.

 

[waterhead]

We won. That's most important. Typical first game with young players looking a bit undisciplined, especiall the young point guard. Mick will settle them down.
A long standing concern is the imbalance between offense and defense. Strong and disciplined on D. Mick has a quick hook if they don't give their all on D.
But O. Seems like the same old pass around the perimeter and take a shot. Glad Savannah St got tired to give us easy baskets. But I continue to see way too many 3's when the bigs are standing under the basket. This will need to change when we play the big boys.
Again, its only the first game. Get that O moving and passing. And penetrating. Some the the subs, Jennifer, did a nice job driving to the basket.
That was not a great zone D we faced and there needs to be way more patience in getting the ball inside.

Williams didn't have problems getting to the bucket. I would advise him against shooting so many 3s when he can get in the lane every other time he touches the ball.

 

[waterhead]

Williams didn't have problems getting to the bucket. I would advise him against shooting so many 3s when he can get in the lane every other time he touches the ball.

I'm not sure if Williams made a 3 since the red and black game. He's probably around 50-60 percent on his 2s though (guessing). He's got my green light to drive... I would hold him back on 3s just a little.

 

[cincyguy13]

It was a zone that’s the shots you get when you face a zones

The shots you settle for. Can get better shots but its harder. If teams couldn’t get better shots, every team in the country would play zone.

 

[Jon Rycek]

It was a packed 2-3 zone... you can complain about the turnovers and transition 3 defense but dude, we want our guys hitting 3's when they are wide open. Cane Broome hit 5 alone from the same spot in the key.

Exactly, I don't see why people are mad about the 3s we shot pretty well from deep. You take out the 0-10 to start the second half and it was a great game from beyond the arc. And yeah I was like why do they keep letting him shoot these lol

 

[cincyguy13]

Exactly, I don't see why people are mad about the 3s we shot pretty well from deep. You take out the 0-10 to start the second half and it was a great game from beyond the arc. And yeah I was like why do they keep letting him shoot these lol

I don’t think people are mad, more concerned. If every time you see a zone, you shoot 30+ 3s, there’s a good chance you lose. It’s been a problem for years. I’m not going to go back and look, but I would guess games where we shot 30 3s, we don’t have a good win %

 

[cincyguy13]

You can’t get in the tournament and have a team play zone and say “ well they are playing zone so we have to shot 3s”

 

[cincyguy13]

It was a zone that’s the shots you get when you face a zones

Another thing, we are the 12th ranked team in the country and we are letting Savannah state dictate what we do? This is what your saying we do?

 

[Jon Rycek]

It was game 1. And they wanted to have a 3 point contest, we agreed, and we won, big time. I just think your overreacting. Clearly we are not going to play every team we face this year like this. And even if we did play zones this way, we are SOOOO much better at shooting the 3 this year. Could it get us into trouble in a game, sure, is it gonna be a consistent problem. I absolutely do not think so. This isn't caupain and Johnson taking 15 3s a game.

 

[mdchick]

When teams run a zone it’s extremely hard to rebound especially against us cuz of our size. I would have liked to see Kyle be more agressive on the offensive boards he would have got more points that way, I’m not sure how we ended the game, but at the half we had 20 second chance points compared to their 0. That’s because you can’t rebound the ball defensively well in a zone especially without size.



The only problem i saw on offense was turnovers.

Cane needs to be the guy that settles us down, in the second half he did not do that for us today.

This is what i stated earlier

 

[cincyguy13]

It was game 1. And they wanted to have a 3 point contest, we agreed, and we won, big time. I just think your overreacting. Clearly we are not going to play every team we face this year like this. And even if we did play zones this way, we are SOOOO much better at shooting the 3 this year. Could it get us into trouble in a game, sure, is it gonna be a consistent problem. I absolutely do not think so. This isn't caupain and Johnson taking 15 3s a game.

It’s also not 5 Jj reddicks out there. I’m not worried yet, I didn’t even get to watch the game, but I see how it could become a problem. It’s been a problem for about 10 years

 

[Jon Rycek]

It’s also not 5 Jj reddicks out there. I’m not worried yet, I didn’t even get to watch the game, but I see how it could become a problem. It’s been a problem for about 10 years

I didn't watch the game but I'm going to blast the way they played classic

 

[cincyguy13]

I didn't watch the game but I'm going to blast the way they played classic

Not blasting. Said it’s been a problem for years and could see it still being a problem. Also game is on YouTube for anyone that wants to watch

 

[cincyguy13]

How was I blasting our play? I commented on our play against zones for the last 10 years and seeing that we shot 30 3s, put 2 and 2 together to comment. What did I say that blasted our play?

 

[ZCat]

It was game 1. And they wanted to have a 3 point contest, we agreed, and we won, big time. I just think your overreacting. Clearly we are not going to play every team we face this year like this. And even if we did play zones this way, we are SOOOO much better at shooting the 3 this year. Could it get us into trouble in a game, sure, is it gonna be a consistent problem. I absolutely do not think so. This isn't caupain and Johnson taking 15 3s a game.

We have Kyle and Gary for 1 more year. Let's not waste it. Take some 3's,sure, but not 30.! This year needs to be different!

Flash Gary to the high post.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

The shots you settle for. Can get better shots but its harder. If teams couldn’t get better shots, every team in the country would play zone.

The opposition paid the price for playing that zone. While it did give us a ton of open looks from the perimeter it also opened up rebounding opportunities. We killed them on second chance points and I believe almost set a team record in boards.