Plus Minus Ratings for Each Player

[Bearcat_NTS]

Just want to add that the reason why Caupain has such a high number compared to Jackson and Kilpatrick is because they essentially play the entire game anyways, so the per game average for those players is close to the 40 minute average.

 

[cincrulz11]

So TC was really really good this season? And GG was the worst in terms of +/- per minute by a very wide margin?


Am I reading those stats correctly?

 

[Robert]

Why are the minutes per game wrong?

 

[ervins84]

Those are pretty damning for guyn. Where did you find +/- numbers for cbb though? I will now have another way to waste time once I get that website. Still it's only a 33 game sample and +/- is known for having A LOT of statistical noise even over an entire 82 game NBA season. Add in there being no opponent adjustment and it can be a little wonky. Still cool to see though.

Surprised at first to see Sanders with that good of a #, but more I think on it, that makes sense bc he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK during most of the year. Definitely shows the value of having a guy who can stretch the defense/knock down open shots which this team is starving for.

Also does anyone have the adjusted plus minus that I often see referenced in the NBA?

 

[cincrulz11]

Surprised at first to see Sanders with that good of a #, but more I think on it, that makes sense bc he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK during most of the year. Definitely shows the value of having a guy who can stretch the defense/knock down open shots which this team is starving for.

He is also 3rd on the team in offensive rebounds. he shoots a high % from 3 and never turns the ball over.

 

[handwaver]

Those are pretty damning for guyn. Where did you find +/- numbers for cbb though? I will now have another way to waste time once I get that website. Still it's only a 33 game sample and +/- is known for having A LOT of statistical noise even over an entire 82 game NBA season. Add in there being no opponent adjustment and it can be a little wonky. Still cool to see though.

Surprised at first to see Sanders with that good of a #, but more I think on it, that makes sense bc he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK during most of the year. Definitely shows the value of having a guy who can stretch the defense/knock down open shots which this team is starving for.

Also does anyone have the adjusted plus minus that I often see referenced in the NBA?

"he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK "
Statistically, he's better than SK from a percentage point of view.....380 (Sanders), .345 (SK) from 3
Not sure why more of the offense isn't geared towards Sanders. Is it because he doesn't get open enough, or that his shot is slow? Maybe his percentage is better because he is more selective in the shots he does take..i.e. Only when wide open?

 

[Nayers]

"he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK "
Statistically, he's better than SK from a percentage point of view.....380 (Sanders), .345 (SK) from 3
Not sure why more of the offense isn't geared towards Sanders. Is it because he doesn't get open enough, or that his shot is slow? Maybe his percentage is better because he is more selective in the shots he does take..i.e. Only when wide open?

I think its a combination of slow release and a lack of an established inside game. Also, I think they defer to SK way too much early in games. The only reason sander shot those triples late in the uconn game was because they didn't have a choice.

 

[Robert]

So I'm the only one who thinks it's odd that the minutes per game for most of the players is way off? Do you guys just believe everything you see? Not necessarily saying these numbers are meaningless, but I would like clarification on the minutes per game errors before I just believe the stats on a random image with no source. No offense intended to NTS.

 

[cincycpaw]

So TC was really really good this season? And GG was the worst in terms of +/- per minute by a very wide margin?


Am I reading those stats correctly?

You did watch the games right?

 

[ervins84]

"he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK "
Statistically, he's better than SK from a percentage point of view.....380 (Sanders), .345 (SK) from 3
Not sure why more of the offense isn't geared towards Sanders. Is it because he doesn't get open enough, or that his shot is slow? Maybe his percentage is better because he is more selective in the shots he does take..i.e. Only when wide open?

His percentage being better is mostly a factor of what you mentioned. Quality of looks and usage play a big role. It's part of why Sanders offensive rating is so high and why SK having an offensive rating around 120 with such a high usage rate is really hard to maintain.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Those are pretty damning for guyn. Where did you find +/- numbers for cbb though? I will now have another way to waste time once I get that website. Still it's only a 33 game sample and +/- is known for having A LOT of statistical noise even over an entire 82 game NBA season. Add in there being no opponent adjustment and it can be a little wonky. Still cool to see though.

Surprised at first to see Sanders with that good of a #, but more I think on it, that makes sense bc he's really been the best spot up shooter outside of SK during most of the year. Definitely shows the value of having a guy who can stretch the defense/knock down open shots which this team is starving for.

Also does anyone have the adjusted plus minus that I often see referenced in the NBA?

Here is where I got the data from, didn't realize I didn't hyperlink the source to the image.

LINK

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

So I'm the only one who thinks it's odd that the minutes per game for most of the players is way off? Do you guys just believe everything you see? Not necessarily saying these numbers are meaningless, but I would like clarification on the minutes per game errors before I just believe the stats on a random image with no source. No offense intended to NTS.

Due to inconsistent substitution patterns the +/- ratings aren't necessarily 100% accurate. I believe that is where the discrepancy in minutes stems from. These numbers are not official, but definitely indicative of each player's performance.

 

[cincrulz11]

You did watch the games right?

yes i did, and they back up exactly what i thought i saw. just wanted to make sure i was reading them correctly.