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I definitely agree about the batting order. Votto/Bruce/Duvall at 3-4-5 seems obvious to me.

Stealing 3rd with 0 outs??? Why???
i can't tell you why. My brother almost lost his mind. The game was 1-0 at he time in favor of the Padres. BP led off the inning with a double and with Bruce up and the count 0-0 he took off for third and was nailed. A real head scratcher. I would of yanked his ass out of the game. No excuse for hat kind of mistake for a veteran player. That is taught in little league.
 
Jake, Bailey is starting in Louisvile tonight. Would be nice to get him back on the mound sometime in August. Excited to see some of are arms getting back healthy.
 
Jake, Bailey is starting in Louisvile tonight. Would be nice to get him back on the mound sometime in August. Excited to see some of are arms getting back healthy.

Yeah I'd like for Bailey to get 10 or so Major League starts under his belt before next year. He's been out of action for quite some time.
 
Yeah I'd like for Bailey to get 10 or so Major League starts under his belt before next year. He's been out of action for quite some time.
After 1 inning he has given up 2 runs on home runs. The important thing is he come away from this outing healthy.
 
Yeah I'd like for Bailey to get 10 or so Major League starts under his belt before next year. He's been out of action for quite some time.
Jake after Bailey threw a inning Garett came on and threw 7 shutout innings with 4 hits 2 walks and 5 strike outs. Really think he is going to be a very nice starting pitcher.
 
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/...straily-relievers-homer-bailey-activated.html

Reds president of baseball operations told reporters, including Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer and MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon, that interest in Jay Bruce has been surprisingly tepid to this point in the summer. While a number of clubs have reached out to him on Bruce, Jocketty contends that the offers have been shockingly weak to this point, telling Buchanan, “You wouldn’t believe some of the stuff,” in reference to the packages offered by interested parties. While the immediate assumption might be that the Reds are asking too much, Jocketty sounds fairly grounded in his expectations, telling Buchanan: “We want a legitimate prospect. The guy’s a valuable player.”
It would seem, then, that the Reds would be content to move Bruce for a package centering around one quality prospect — a seemingly reasonable expectation for a player that is slashing .271/.323/.572 with 25 homers on the season. Jocketty suggested that he expects added action over the weekend, but added that “basically the same clubs” have been sniffing around on the veteran with no teams being “really aggressive” to this point. Defensive metrics do peg Bruce as one of the worst defenders in all of baseball this season, though Buchanan notes that he’s spoken to evaluators with other clubs who don’t believe Bruce’s glovework to be nearly as poor as Defensive Runs Saved and Ultimate Zone Rating would otherwise depict.
Jocketty says there hasn’t been any action on shortstop Zack Cozart, who is playing a quality shortstop. The trouble there seems to be that there just isn’t a clear need on a contender. With another season of affordable control to go, he is probably more likely to be dealt in the winter.
In terms of the team’s pitching, Jocketty suggested there’s no real likelihood of righties Anthony DeSclafani and Dan Straily changing uniforms. “I don’t think we’d consider anything,” Jocketty said of the former. “Clubs inquire about certain players, but never want to trade you anything, so what’s the point?” As for Straily, Buchanan suggests there’s “no thought” of a deal since he’s a functional and affordable arm that would not draw a notable trade return.
Buchanan also notes that relievers such as Ross Ohlendorf, Blake Wood, and Tony Cingrani could conceivably be dealt if there’s interest, as all will rise in price next year. None have been particularly impressive, with Wood and Cingrani posting solid earned run averages without the peripherals to match. Ohlendorf is striking out better than a batter per nine and will be a free agent after the season; his mid-nineties fastball and old-time charm could make him a depth option.
Meanwhile, the Reds announced today that long-injured righty Homer Bailey has been activated for a start on Sunday. The 30-year-old last appeared early in 2015 and is on the comeback trail from Tommy John surgery. After originally charting an aggressive schedule, the team slowed him down after a few hiccups along the way. Cinci extended Bailey just before the 2014 campaign, which was his last before qualifying for free agency, agreeing to a six-year, $105MM pact. Over 2012-13, Bailey put up 417 innings of 3.58 ERA pitching, leading to the investment, but he wasn’t quite as good in the first year of his new deal before succumbing to arm troubles. Needless to say, his ability to return to form will be an important storyline for a Reds club that still has a good amount of money invested in several aging players.
 
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/...straily-relievers-homer-bailey-activated.html

Reds president of baseball operations told reporters, including Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer and MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon, that interest in Jay Bruce has been surprisingly tepid to this point in the summer. While a number of clubs have reached out to him on Bruce, Jocketty contends that the offers have been shockingly weak to this point, telling Buchanan, “You wouldn’t believe some of the stuff,” in reference to the packages offered by interested parties. While the immediate assumption might be that the Reds are asking too much, Jocketty sounds fairly grounded in his expectations, telling Buchanan: “We want a legitimate prospect. The guy’s a valuable player.”
It would seem, then, that the Reds would be content to move Bruce for a package centering around one quality prospect — a seemingly reasonable expectation for a player that is slashing .271/.323/.572 with 25 homers on the season. Jocketty suggested that he expects added action over the weekend, but added that “basically the same clubs” have been sniffing around on the veteran with no teams being “really aggressive” to this point. Defensive metrics do peg Bruce as one of the worst defenders in all of baseball this season, though Buchanan notes that he’s spoken to evaluators with other clubs who don’t believe Bruce’s glovework to be nearly as poor as Defensive Runs Saved and Ultimate Zone Rating would otherwise depict.
Jocketty says there hasn’t been any action on shortstop Zack Cozart, who is playing a quality shortstop. The trouble there seems to be that there just isn’t a clear need on a contender. With another season of affordable control to go, he is probably more likely to be dealt in the winter.
In terms of the team’s pitching, Jocketty suggested there’s no real likelihood of righties Anthony DeSclafani and Dan Straily changing uniforms. “I don’t think we’d consider anything,” Jocketty said of the former. “Clubs inquire about certain players, but never want to trade you anything, so what’s the point?” As for Straily, Buchanan suggests there’s “no thought” of a deal since he’s a functional and affordable arm that would not draw a notable trade return.
Buchanan also notes that relievers such as Ross Ohlendorf, Blake Wood, and Tony Cingrani could conceivably be dealt if there’s interest, as all will rise in price next year. None have been particularly impressive, with Wood and Cingrani posting solid earned run averages without the peripherals to match. Ohlendorf is striking out better than a batter per nine and will be a free agent after the season; his mid-nineties fastball and old-time charm could make him a depth option.
Meanwhile, the Reds announced today that long-injured righty Homer Bailey has been activated for a start on Sunday. The 30-year-old last appeared early in 2015 and is on the comeback trail from Tommy John surgery. After originally charting an aggressive schedule, the team slowed him down after a few hiccups along the way. Cinci extended Bailey just before the 2014 campaign, which was his last before qualifying for free agency, agreeing to a six-year, $105MM pact. Over 2012-13, Bailey put up 417 innings of 3.58 ERA pitching, leading to the investment, but he wasn’t quite as good in the first year of his new deal before succumbing to arm troubles. Needless to say, his ability to return to form will be an important storyline for a Reds club that still has a good amount of money invested in several aging players.

Thanks for sharing Jake. Saw this morning on MLB rumors . as a guy who has negotiated many contracts in my day this is normal banter. have to believe things will heat up for Bruce.
 
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/...straily-relievers-homer-bailey-activated.html

Reds president of baseball operations told reporters, including Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer and MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon, that interest in Jay Bruce has been surprisingly tepid to this point in the summer. While a number of clubs have reached out to him on Bruce, Jocketty contends that the offers have been shockingly weak to this point, telling Buchanan, “You wouldn’t believe some of the stuff,” in reference to the packages offered by interested parties. While the immediate assumption might be that the Reds are asking too much, Jocketty sounds fairly grounded in his expectations, telling Buchanan: “We want a legitimate prospect. The guy’s a valuable player.”
It would seem, then, that the Reds would be content to move Bruce for a package centering around one quality prospect — a seemingly reasonable expectation for a player that is slashing .271/.323/.572 with 25 homers on the season. Jocketty suggested that he expects added action over the weekend, but added that “basically the same clubs” have been sniffing around on the veteran with no teams being “really aggressive” to this point. Defensive metrics do peg Bruce as one of the worst defenders in all of baseball this season, though Buchanan notes that he’s spoken to evaluators with other clubs who don’t believe Bruce’s glovework to be nearly as poor as Defensive Runs Saved and Ultimate Zone Rating would otherwise depict.
Jocketty says there hasn’t been any action on shortstop Zack Cozart, who is playing a quality shortstop. The trouble there seems to be that there just isn’t a clear need on a contender. With another season of affordable control to go, he is probably more likely to be dealt in the winter.
In terms of the team’s pitching, Jocketty suggested there’s no real likelihood of righties Anthony DeSclafani and Dan Straily changing uniforms. “I don’t think we’d consider anything,” Jocketty said of the former. “Clubs inquire about certain players, but never want to trade you anything, so what’s the point?” As for Straily, Buchanan suggests there’s “no thought” of a deal since he’s a functional and affordable arm that would not draw a notable trade return.
Buchanan also notes that relievers such as Ross Ohlendorf, Blake Wood, and Tony Cingrani could conceivably be dealt if there’s interest, as all will rise in price next year. None have been particularly impressive, with Wood and Cingrani posting solid earned run averages without the peripherals to match. Ohlendorf is striking out better than a batter per nine and will be a free agent after the season; his mid-nineties fastball and old-time charm could make him a depth option.
Meanwhile, the Reds announced today that long-injured righty Homer Bailey has been activated for a start on Sunday. The 30-year-old last appeared early in 2015 and is on the comeback trail from Tommy John surgery. After originally charting an aggressive schedule, the team slowed him down after a few hiccups along the way. Cinci extended Bailey just before the 2014 campaign, which was his last before qualifying for free agency, agreeing to a six-year, $105MM pact. Over 2012-13, Bailey put up 417 innings of 3.58 ERA pitching, leading to the investment, but he wasn’t quite as good in the first year of his new deal before succumbing to arm troubles. Needless to say, his ability to return to form will be an important storyline for a Reds club that still has a good amount of money invested in several aging players.

The offers for Bruce are probably "weak" because Walt has overvalued him. Same with a lot of this fan base TBH. Bruce is somewhere between 35-45 in terms of active outfielders. Walt and a lot of fans seem to think that these last 3 months of Bruce is the norm and he is a top 10 outfielder.
 
The offers for Bruce are probably "weak" because Walt has overvalued him. Same with a lot of this fan base TBH. Bruce is somewhere between 35-45 in terms of active outfielders. Walt and a lot of fans seem to think that these last 3 months of Bruce is the norm and he is a top 10 outfielder.
Regardless Coach I always start out asking for the Moon.
 
Yea Pat it seems we can't catch a break. Last year we had pitching to sell and everyone was looking for hitters. This year it seems pitching is in demand.

The reds traded away an all star 3rd baseman, who had a less than stellar return last year, also should have traded Bruce if demand was high for hitters. WJ wanted to retool and not rebuild, now he realizes it is a full rebuild. Also, did not have to trade pitching, WJ got an itch to get rid of Chapman. Could still dangle Disco to see what return would be, Rangers may want him badly.
 
The reds traded away an all star 3rd baseman, who had a less than stellar return last year, also should have traded Bruce if demand was high for hitters. WJ wanted to retool and not rebuild, now he realizes it is a full rebuild. Also, did not have to trade pitching, WJ got an itch to get rid of Chapman. Could still dangle Disco to see what return would be, Rangers may want him badly.
the league new the Reds would not resign Frazier. His age and years made it a no brainer. Still think they will trade Bruce for a hitter. Chapman shooting up his garage didn't help his market value especially with ML baseball rolling out their domestic violence policy. I think you bright about Disco. They could move him. They tried to move Bruce at the deadline last year. Thought the Mets were the destination. WJ catches a lot of flak but my take is it is BoB C who is the impatient one. WJ didn't just forget how to GM after arriving from ST. Louis. Castellini wants a championship.
 
the league new the Reds would not resign Frazier. His age and years made it a no brainer. Still think they will trade Bruce for a hitter. Chapman shooting up his garage didn't help his market value especially with ML baseball rolling out their domestic violence policy. I think you bright about Disco. They could move him. They tried to move Bruce at the deadline last year. Thought the Mets were the destination. WJ catches a lot of flak but my take is it is BoB C who is the impatient one. WJ didn't just forget how to GM after arriving from ST. Louis. Castellini wants a championship.

Small markets have a hard time winning playoff games let alone championships. If Cast wants a championship he should buy a big market team, not coming anytime soon in Cincinnati. Frazier was under control for a few years. Reds were in no hurry to resign. D Backs offered top 4 prospects for Chapman and reds balked. Reds could have weathered storm his value was at lowest when traded. Poor move proved by Yankees
 
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