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I have been one of JJ's toughest critic but he is starting to prove me wrong (and I hope he continues). He has been beast these last few games. I thought there were a number of games earlier in the year that he looked like the old JJ but he has come out of his shell the previous few games. It helps that he is playing mostly on the low block this year as opposed to having the ball on the perimeter the prior years. I blame Mick for trying to turn him into a 3 but to Mick's credit he realized this didn't work and put him where he belongs at the 4/5 spot.

Now if we can only get Rubles to realize he can't shoot and stop pump faking (since you would have to be living under a rock not to realize he pump fakes every single time) and just drive to the hoop and go up strong. I was high on him earlier but he has regressed a lot offensively.
 
For those that keep questioning that SK doesn't play big in big games, I've already pointed it out once before but I'll do it again in the hopes that it sinks in this time. It's a completely ridiculous argument.

First of all, he has been in a crazy bad shooting slump and at least last night, I think he let it affect his play. However, he still had 13 points on 6-6 shooting. Against Nebraska (an important game) he was 17-18 at the FT line. How is that not stepping up? That is clutch right there. Getting to the line when the shot isn't falling - isn't that what we've all been asking for?

He wasn't very good against Xavier but still managed 17 points. Had 19 against NM where he went 8-8 from the line. You could argue that NCST was big game and he scored 21 points and went 8-8 at the line and 3-6 from 3's.

You want to go even farther back? How about the UConn game where he was absolutely clutch hitting the game winner from 3? How about when he scored 36 against Marquette including the game tieing layup to force overtime and followed that up with scoring 21 against Syracuse? He scored 25 against Xavier last year.

Still don't think he steps up in big games?

Exactly, those people saying that are ignorant. I love sk and think he is great, and I could care less if he misses a shot because he's going to score he's a scoring machine. He's are best player and smart too, I go to all the games and I wouldn't mind if he shot more
 
The Long Haul, I am definetly with you on this. He is handlioing the ball much more this year. Physically he is being asked to do so much more. not only does he have to continually run off screens but he is being asked to run the point and create his shot. Can't be good for a jump shooter to use his legs so much and log so many minutes. As the youngsters continue to grow and contribute hopefuly it will take some pressure and some of the physical pounding off SK. Also don't care how he scores as long as he scores. Foul line points are very good because it creates foul problems for the other team.
I think part of SK handling the ball so much more is an attempt to get to the line. That part of the equation I like. The problem is SK does not have th ebest handles, but he is getting better. Him handling the ball also facilitates others to be wide open - like JS. What I like this year is virtually anyone is capable of bringing the ball upcourt after a rebound. They usually, and might I add, intelligently, pass it to a PG or SK. The team is growing as I expected. SMU was the right test at this level. Memphis will provide a real handful. Our guards will contain their guards in my eyes. GG shut down Nic Moore. He got all his points later in the game. Troy needs to get a little quicker on the D, but he definitely adds an O weapon. I like him coming ff the bench with the majority of the minutes at PG. I didn't feel that way earlier, but I am willing to change my mind. I do think Mick should have have both GG and TC in at the end when he made the D choice in the final minutes. But we got the W and that's what counts.
 
I have to admit sk shots have been the same he takes 30 shots hits 10 this has to stop if we are going to make a run tournament time. If Sanders and Johnson and Thomas had that long a leash Sanders confidence would be out tge Windows

Seriously man, there's a reason the leash is different. Have u considered sk is 2x the player shaq and sanders are. They are good players but are not go to star guys. Sk's leash is longer because of how good he is and how much he does. We a Need him on the court
 
I think part of SK handling the ball so much more is an attempt to get to the line. That part of the equation I like. The problem is SK does not have th ebest handles, but he is getting better. Him handling the ball also facilitates others to be wide open - like JS. What I like this year is virtually anyone is capable of bringing the ball upcourt after a rebound. They usually, and might I add, intelligently, pass it to a PG or SK. The team is growing as I expected. SMU was the right test at this level. Memphis will provide a real handful. Our guards will contain their guards in my eyes. GG shut down Nic Moore. He got all his points later in the game. Troy needs to get a little quicker on the D, but he definitely adds an O weapon. I like him coming ff the bench with the majority of the minutes at PG. I didn't feel that way earlier, but I am willing to change my mind. I do think Mick should have have both GG and TC in at the end when he made the D choice in the final minutes. But we got the W and that's what counts.
SK handling the ball so much is definitely attributable to wanting to get him to the line. It also is because we want the ball in his hands as our best offensive weapon and it reduces the ability of the other team to deny him the ball. GG was injured. He had a shoulder issue that is why he never came back in the game. I have no problem with Guyn seeing the floor. Everyone has a role. His should be as back up PG. The thing I like that MC has done is he hasn't handed the job to TC he is making him earn it. In my eyes he is doing just that.
 
For those that keep questioning that SK doesn't play big in big games, I've already pointed it out once before but I'll do it again in the hopes that it sinks in this time. It's a completely ridiculous argument.

First of all, he has been in a crazy bad shooting slump and at least last night, I think he let it affect his play. However, he still had 13 points on 6-6 shooting. Against Nebraska (an important game) he was 17-18 at the FT line. How is that not stepping up? That is clutch right there. Getting to the line when the shot isn't falling - isn't that what we've all been asking for?

He wasn't very good against Xavier but still managed 17 points. Had 19 against NM where he went 8-8 from the line. You could argue that NCST was big game and he scored 21 points and went 8-8 at the line and 3-6 from 3's.

You want to go even farther back? How about the UConn game where he was absolutely clutch hitting the game winner from 3? How about when he scored 36 against Marquette including the game tieing layup to force overtime and followed that up with scoring 21 against Syracuse? He scored 25 against Xavier last year.

Still don't think he steps up in big games?

Here is the bottom line with SK. A classier person has never put on the Bearcat uniform. He's never showed an ounce of cockiness. Never does any boasting, or in-your-facing after a basket, or staring someone down after a block or dunk. He just plays basketball. I would almost be willing to hang his jersey up next to the Big O and Kenyon based on that alone, regardless of the fact that he will be our 2nd highest scorer ever. I have immense respect for him.

As to his performance, I'm probably more in the group that feels he struggles shooting in big games. This year is a great example. In the 6 games against decent teams, he's shooting 23-78 for 29%. Against the patsies, he is 55-103 for 53%. His overall shooting persentage is about 43%.

His shooting percentage has steadily declineed since his freshman year.

Freshman Overall 43% 3-pt. 37%
Soph. Overall 42% 3-pt. 37%
Junior Overall 39% 3-pt. 30%

This year, his percentage is better, but again, it's inflated against the weak teams at this point. Last year was pretty bad for an experienced Junior. He's obviously drawing better defenders each year, but with Cash and Parker around him last year, they couldn't put all their focus on him.

The big difference this year, as others have pointed out, is that his ball skills have finally improved and he's much more effective driving to the basket and drawing fouls, plus he's getting more high percentage shots because of his ability to penetrate. Last year, we cringed when he tried to drive because he would frequently turn the ball over or travel. Last night, he traveled a couple times on drives. But, his improvement in that phase of the game if very noticeable and his free throw shooting is markedly better. He's definitely a more complete player now.
 
I would venture a guess that most if not all players shoot better against weaker competition than they do against good competition for obvious reasons. SK probably tries to force it a little too much against good competition where he doesn't have to otherwise. But again, his stats have proven over his career that he has played big in big games. He has never been a great outside shooter and right now he is in a big funk. For the most part of this season he has been the only player on the team that is anywhere close to a threat to score. He has had to do it all himself.
 
I would venture a guess that most if not all players shoot better against weaker competition than they do against good competition for obvious reasons. SK probably tries to force it a little too much against good competition where he doesn't have to otherwise. But again, his stats have proven over his career that he has played big in big games. He has never been a great outside shooter and right now he is in a big funk. For the most part of this season he has been the only player on the team that is anywhere close to a threat to score. He has had to do it all himself.

The difference is scoring versus shooting. In past years, if he had an off night shooting, he didn't have the game to get his points in other ways. This year he does.
 
For those that keep questioning that SK doesn't play big in big games, I've already pointed it out once before but I'll do it again in the hopes that it sinks in this time. It's a completely ridiculous argument.

First of all, he has been in a crazy bad shooting slump and at least last night, I think he let it affect his play. However, he still had 13 points on 6-6 shooting. Against Nebraska (an important game) he was 17-18 at the FT line. How is that not stepping up? That is clutch right there. Getting to the line when the shot isn't falling - isn't that what we've all been asking for?

He wasn't very good against Xavier but still managed 17 points. Had 19 against NM where he went 8-8 from the line. You could argue that NCST was big game and he scored 21 points and went 8-8 at the line and 3-6 from 3's.

You want to go even farther back? How about the UConn game where he was absolutely clutch hitting the game winner from 3? How about when he scored 36 against Marquette including the game tieing layup to force overtime and followed that up with scoring 21 against Syracuse? He scored 25 against Xavier last year.

Still don't think he steps up in big games?

The question I posed was when was the last time Kilpatrick had a good SHOOTING game against a good team. The answer is probably the Marquette game last year where he single handedly won UC the game. He was also pretty good in the second half of the Creighton game. I am concerned about this:

New Mexico (last year): 5-22, 4-13 on three's
Pittsburgh (last year): 5-15, 2-9 on three's
Georgetown (at home): 3-13, 1-7 on three's
Connecticut (road): 6-16, 3-8 on three's
Notre Dame (road): 3-13, 0-3
Louisville (road): 3-15, 1-9
Georgetown (MSG): 2-12, 0-8
New Mexico: 5-18, 1-7
Pittsburgh: 4-13, 1-8
Nebraska: 2-13, 0-5
SMU: 3-12, 1-7

He shot 14-84 on three pointers in those games which is 16.7%. In order for Cincinnati to be a good team this season, he has to shoot closer to 40% on three's against good competition. A ton of his shots this year have bounced in and out, I am hoping they start to drop as we get into the meat of the conference schedule starting Saturday.
 
The thing that excites me about last night and recent games is that SMU is the 2nd best defense in the league holding teams to 61 points, and we beat that total. Normally, you would expect our team to struggle against a good defense. We did have a tough shooting night, but the offense still put up 65 and that is cause for optimism. This is the 4th straight game that our offense has surpassed the defensive scoring average of the team we were playing. That says a lot, because the previous 3 games before that, we set offensive basketball back 100 years. If we can score more than about 65 points, I like our chances. Memphis will be a good test. They're averaging over 82 points. I think I heard we have the longest streak in college basketball of holding opponents under 70 points. That will be tested big time on Saturday. If we can hold them under 70, we can win that game, because they're defense gives up about 70.

One other good point of note, Nebraska followed our game by playing at #22 Iowa and lost by 10, so we actually played them a little better than that top 25 team did. Hope we start getting some serious looks at being ranked soon, although Memphis could derail that talk. Hope not though.
 
Yeah I'm not really worried at all about Kilpatrick. I am waiting on his 30 or 40 point game against good competition this year. We'll see if it happens or not. Next year you will all be saying I miss having a consistent scorer like SK. And to the previous poster that said there is not a classier Bearcat I agree. SK has been the model Bearcat and the best example of hard work and leadership. I hope one of these freshman pick up his traits and keep them going and pass them on to a freshman in 2017. Keep it going
 
Justin Jackson is the best player on this team, plain and simple.
 
Justin Jackson, Sean Kilpatrick, and Titus Rubles are the three most important players on the team in that order...

I can't believe people are seriously saying this. SK has been pretty much the sole focus of every team's defense all year and he's still our leading scorer. BY FAR.

JJ just had the game of his career. Good for him.
 
I can't believe people are seriously saying this. SK has been pretty much the sole focus of every team's defense all year and he's still our leading scorer. BY FAR.

JJ just had the game of his career. Good for him.

Best and most important are two different things. Cincinnati cannot win against good teams if Jackson doesn't play well. Kilpatrick was just okay yesterday and UC led the entire second half. See what I mean?
 
Best and most important are two different things. Cincinnati cannot win against good teams if Jackson doesn't play well. Kilpatrick was just okay yesterday and UC led the entire second half. See what I mean?

"Just ok" for Sean Kilpatrick was 13 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. While getting double-teamed to make room for guys like Sanders and Thomas to be wide open and score
 
Best and most important are two different things. Cincinnati cannot win against good teams if Jackson doesn't play well. Kilpatrick was just okay yesterday and UC led the entire second half. See what I mean?

They are both extremely important. I don't think we would do much without one or the other.
 
"Just ok" for Sean Kilpatrick was 13 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. While getting double-teamed to make room for guys like Sanders and Thomas to be wide open and score

You are just one of those people that doesn't understand that scoring isn't the most important stat in basketball. JJ affects the game in every single aspect of the game, and over the past 5 games is clearly are most important player, no contest
 
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