Troy Caupain

[jacobkdoyle]

All he has to do is square is feet. If he shoots as many jumpers as Cobb did in the offseason he'll be fine. I think his low % this year is bc he is taking more shots and the flaw in his stroke is more visible. Last year he basically only shot set jumpers, and those are the ones he still makes this year. But his % is too low this year imo for him not to tweak something. It's holding him back from bring a big time player.

 

[L-T]

He's had the same technique his entire life, it's to late for him to change it now. He actually does a really good job of getting off quick, but I would like to see him gather himself a little more before shooting. The biggest thing I notice about his shot is that when he fades away he never makes it and when he finishes a foot forward from where he started shooting he makes it, it's a balance thing he will figure out

He's almost to his senior season. When will he figure it out? Honestly, I'd like to recruit a few players who actually have it figured out before they get here. Because after they get here, most don't seem to ever figure it out....which is why we continually struggle to get out of the 50s.

 

[L-T]

All he has to do is square is feet. If he shoots jumpers like Cobb in the offseason he'd be fine. I think his low % this year is bc he is taking more shots and the flaw in his stroke is more visible. Last year he basically only shot set jumpers, and those are the ones he still makes this year. His % is too low this year imo for him not to tweak something.

You may have hit the nail on the head with the weight training. That absolutely can mess with a shooter's technique.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Yeah it too late to change his form. And he does get it off very quick, he was just very cold from the field last night. Next year he needs to learn to finish better off drives like sk learned how to do...same height needs to study how that man finished at the rim

guys he is not SK. Plays a different position and has different responsibilities. What Troy needs to work on is getting in the lane and finding the teammate who's man is help defending on him for dunks. If guys play off him on the perimeter he can knock down a jumper. He is not now and never will be a break you down get to the rim and finish player. He can also post up smaller guards and dish out of that set if help comes. At this point in time TC is what he is.

 

[mdchick]

He's almost to his senior season. When will he figure it out? Honestly, I'd like to recruit a few players who actually have it figured out before they get here. Because after they get here, most don't seem to ever figure it out....which is why we continually struggle to get out of the 50s.

He lead the league in 3 point % last year.........

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

He lead the league in 3 point % last year.........

TC has had a up and down year because he is faced with being our best option to have the ball in his hands at crunch time. Really do not have that player. We need all the players playing well to advance. We do not have that one guy who can carry us every night.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

guys he is not SK. Plays a different position and has different responsibilities. What Troy needs to work on is getting in the lane and finding the teammate who's man is help defending on him for dunks. If guys play off him on the perimeter he can knock down a jumper. He is not now and never will be a break you down get to the rim and finish player. He can also post up smaller guards and dish out of that set if help comes. At this point in time TC is what he is.

Too early to say that imo.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Too early to say that imo.

jake he shot the ball much better last year. I think the reason his shooting % has declined is because he is forcing some shots because the team needs someone to provide some consistent offense and score the ball in tight situations. His skill level and strengths do not now or have they ever said he can be successful being that. He takes care of the ball,runs the team and gets you about 10-12 points a game. He can knock down a perimeter shot if set as you pointed out. TC is a good player but he is not a star and probably will never be one.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

If Caupain was shooting 42% (which isn't that great) instead of 37.5% FG, he'd be averaging 12.5 ppg. That's 10 extra makes out of 224 attempts. And assuming none of those extra makes are 3s. He's not that far away from truly being All-Conference. His jumpshot is hurting him the most though imo. Nothing with his release bothers me, but he's been a little Daryl Edwards-y with his right foot at times. I just can't see how you'd ever be consistent with increased volume and that form.

 

[L-T]

He lead the league in 3 point % last year.........

Yeah. And Clark will lead it this year. So what?

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

If Caupain was shooting 42% (which isn't that great) instead of 37.5% FG, he'd be averaging 12.5 ppg. That's 10 extra makes out of 224 attempts. And assuming none of those extra makes are 3s. He's not that far away from truly being All-Conference. His jumpshot is hurting him the most though imo. Nothing with his release bothers me, but he's been a little Daryl Edwards-y with his right foot at times. I just can't see how you'd ever be consistent with increased volume and that form.

He absolutely has to cut out those 17-19 footers. Those shots make me want to bang my head against the wall. BTW, he is shooting 30.7% on two point jumpers (23-75) and is pretty much the same from three at 31.0% (31-100).

 

[mdchick]

Yeah. And Clark will lead it this year. So what?

My point was that you were wrong....

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

He absolutely has to cut out those 17-19 footers. Those shots make me want to bang my head against the wall. BTW, he is shooting 30.7% on two point jumpers (23-75) and is pretty much the same from three at 31.0% (31-100).

I'd be satisfied with last years shooting,his This years T/O to assist ratio and him looking to draw the defense more in the lane and finding Gary or Oct for dunks.

 

[L-T]

My point was that you were wrong....

Lol! What was I wrong about? I asked you the question. You were the one critiquing his form and saying he would figure it out. All I did was ask you when he was going to figure it out because he's almost to his senior year.. I didn't say anything to be wrong about.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Caupain's 3PT% was good last year but he had very few attempts. He has doubled his rate this year. 31% 3s and 37.5% FG overall is really low. Realistically, how would that improve next year if he stays at a higher volume with the same approach?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

He absolutely has to cut out those 17-19 footers. Those shots make me want to bang my head against the wall. BTW, he is shooting 30.7% on two point jumpers (23-75) and is pretty much the same from three at 31.0% (31-100).

The long 2s are so confusing.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

The long 2s are so confusing.

Cobb had one the other day in transition. He made it, but why in the world did he not just stop 1 step sooner and shoot the 3? I think statistically, Al Horford, Serge Ibaka, and Blake Griffin are probably the only ones who can get away with shooting those shots. And that's only bc the NBA line is so much deeper up top.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Guys if TC was the player we all want him to be right now he would probably be playing in the league right now. I'm not into next year mode yet. We are trending up right now. The NCAA is wide open. TC needs to focus on his strengths and involve everyone around him. We all know and have commented that this team can be led by a different guy every night. TC is one of 5 guys. If we ain't hitting on all cylinders we will not be advancing in either tournament.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Cobb had one the other day in transition. He made it, but why in the world did he not just stop 1 step sooner and shoot the 3? I think statistically, Al Horford, Serge Ibaka, and Blake Griffin are probably the only ones who can get away with shooting those shots. And that's only bc the NBA line is so much deeper up top.

jake I certainly see your point. But lots of times your reacting to what the defense gives you. Sometimes it hard to think while trying to perform out there. Situationally I agree with you 100%.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

jake I certainly see your point. But lots of times your reacting to what the defense gives you. Sometimes it hard to think while trying to perform out there. Situationally I agree with you 100%.

I agree that sometimes that's the best/only shot. We seem to shoot a lot of them early in the shot clock and those are the ones that confuse me. Extremely inefficient.