Xavier

[Bcatfollower]

Mac that is where we got killed today. Out rebounded 44-27 and they almost shot 50% from 3

You have to factor in that they made so many shots limiting rebound opportunity on the D end. It wasn't just crappy rebounding.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

You have to factor in that they made so many shots limiting rebound opportunity on the D end. It wasn't just crappy rebounding.

they also out offensive rebounded us while missing far fewer shots. They had far fewer opportunities. Right?

 

[TNBearcat3]

He's a starter, a senior, a Co-Captain, and a leader on this team....as well as a wonderful person. Keeping him buried on the bench in a huge game has not a single thing to do with how good Johnny Bench was.

Take him out, give him his punishment, and get him back in there. The foul that got him removed for good was not on him. O'MEARA was falling backwards out of control and Washington stepped aside and O'Meara fell on his ass. And, for that, Mick benched him for the remainder of the game. That's a joke!

When Kyle is bad, he's really bad. Terrible shot selection, deserved to be on the bench today IMO.

 

[RDCat]

When Kyle is bad, he's really bad. Terrible shot selection, deserved to be on the bench today IMO.

There are certainly a lot of players that you do that to, but not your senior co-captain and leader. I think he has earned more respect than that.

 

[cincrulz11]

There are certainly a lot of players that you do that to, but not your senior co-captain and leader. I think he has earned more respect than that.

its not just today. kwash was benched last game too and in other games as well. as i said this week the kwash and broome thing caught me as odd. why the mind games, why the start no start back and forth with both of them? it has been especially odd with kwash.


we have talked about broome needed to prove it, but kwash absolutely did last year, why has he basically been in the dog house all year.


ill say the same with kwash i said for broome, to be who we want to be we need kwash to be a huge part of that. there is nobody else on this team that can fill that role.

 

[ervins84]

Go back and look at the schedules from the bearcats past years easy to see I'm right

Genius, I'm talking about your claim that other teams win 50% of their road games against top x% competition, which is just plain pulled out of your butt.

So please, show your work. Prove me wrong. Now's your chance to look like smart. Here's a promise. I'll never post on this site again if you can show me proof that establishes the numbers you posted and weren't just arbitrarily plucked out of thin air.

 

[Bearcatboy]

Genius, I'm talking about your claim that other teams win 50% of their road games against top x% competition, which is just plain pulled out of your butt.

So please, show your work. Prove me wrong. Now's your chance to look like smart. Here's a promise. I'll never post on this site again if you can show me proof that establishes the numbers you posted and weren't just arbitrarily plucked out of thin air.

You must not watch College basketball too much, I'm not wasting an hour of my life to prove something to a nobody.

 

[ervins84]

You must not watch College basketball too much, I'm not wasting an hour of my life to prove something to a nobody.

Just stop posting. You pulled something out of your butt in a moment of frustration that was beyond hyperbole and plain false. But your ego won't let you admit it.

One day you'll grow up. Or, you won't and you'll spend an hour telling me how you won't waste time proving something so obvious. Instead of, you know, just proving it.

I obviously do agree it does "feel" like we lose a disproportionate amount of "big" games. But you've lost your mind if you actually believe plenty of other teams win 50% of their road games vs top 15 or top 20 or whatever it was opponents in any remotely significant sample size

 

[Bcatfollower]

Just stop posting. You pulled something out of your butt in a moment of frustration that was beyond hyperbole and plain false. But your ego won't let you admit it.

One day you'll grow up. Or, you won't and you'll spend an hour telling me how you won't waste time proving something so obvious. Instead of, you know, just proving it.

I obviously do agree it does "feel" like we lose a disproportionate amount of "big" games. But you've lost your mind if you actually believe other teams win 50% of their road games vs top 15 or top 20 or whatever it was opponents in any remotely significant sample size

Yep. Example.Baylor lost to x then wsu...

 

[Bearcatboy]

Yep. Example.Baylor lost to x then wsu...

And later in the year they will beat other top teams, you win some you lose some but we lose all of them

 

[Bearcatboy]

Just stop posting. You pulled something out of your butt in a moment of frustration that was beyond hyperbole and plain false. But your ego won't let you admit it.

One day you'll grow up. Or, you won't and you'll spend an hour telling me how you won't waste time proving something so obvious. Instead of, you know, just proving it.

I obviously do agree it does "feel" like we lose a disproportionate amount of "big" games. But you've lost your mind if you actually believe plenty of other teams win 50% of their road games vs top 15 or top 20 or whatever it was opponents in any remotely significant sample size

please feel free to hit the ignore button!

There is no feel we do, looks like you're the one that still mad about the loss not me. I know what's going to happen I've seen this movie before.....

 

[cincyguy13]

There is no feel we do, looks like you're the one that still mad about the loss not me. I know what's going to happen I've seen this movie before.....

What’s the issues and how would you fix them? How do we start winning these games? Let us know

 

[Bearcatboy]

What’s the issues and how would you fix them? How do we start winning these games? Let us know

Play it like it's another game come out firing you can't be scared to lose, you can't be worried that you're playing another good team, do what you do best and if it's not working that day then oh well you tried. Take away who or what the other teams does best. Or just play all easy teams ha

 

[ervins84]

Ill post everyday just to piss you off you don't like it please hit the ignore button!

There is no feel we do, looks like you're the one that still mad about the loss not me. I know what's going to happen I've seen this movie before.....

You must be great at parties.

This isnt complicated. You claimed "Z" is true with no facts.

I asked to see how you know that.

You refuse to support it. You're truly the embodiment of what is wrong with internet forums.

 

[Bearcatboy]

You must be great at parties.

This isnt complicated. You claimed "Z" is true with no facts.

I asked to see how you know that.

You refuse to support it. You're truly the embodiment of what is wrong with internet forums.

You go look it up, tell me what you find

 

[bearcat1518]

Are you really trying to tell me the difference in the game was Broome not starting even though he got 10 more minutes in the game?

Umm...Yes.

Xavier always comes out and puts us in a early hole. You can't come out down 9-1 (or more in years past) especially on the road. The game is over before it truly starts. We all can respect JJ not turning the ball over very often, but that is playing to "not lose" instead of playing to win. In what world is having JJ Fire up the first 2 shots a good thing? (Probably the same world where Jeremy Hill starts over Joe Mixon)

 

[Jon Rycek]

Until Broome shows he can take care of the ball and not make careless mistakes from being selfish I have no problem with Jenifer starting. Our best players are Clark, Cumberland and Evans and it's not close. Give me a guy that can maximize getting them the ball. Also Washington can be a prolific scorer in the right game. Broome is a better offensive player, better at taking the defense on one on two or three. Great, that's not team ball and leads to sloppy basketball as he has demonstrated some this year. Defensively they're both good and crafty in the press. One on one their both quick, strength goes to jenifer. But in the half court their defense is a wash. People get too hung up on a players isolated offensive abilities. This is a five on five game with zone defenses and double teams, etc. A player like Broome can be nullified easily, especially being a smaller player. Lance was the best individual offensive talent by far we've had and he was nullified in college ball and his team didn't make the tournament with UC's third leading scorer on it. Why is that? Selfish basketball doesn't win in college. Look at St. Johns under Lavin. They had numerous five star talents every year and were a .500 team. Why? Selfish play, not team ball.

It's really simple. You get the ball with a chance to score then you opponent does. You get one shot. Your job is to get the best shot possible. People are Broome over Jenifer are missing the point. We have four capable scorers to get good shots. Sure the pg is going to need to factor in and take and make and create shots. But bottom line, who runs a better offense, who puts his teammates in a better position to get that one best shot among five players on the floor? Thus far Jenifer has done that. When Broome or Jenifer shoots that means, Clark, Cumberland, Evans and Washington arent. He's not getting extra possessions or extra shots for the team. So yeah he might take more shots and score more, but is he taking better shots away from an Evans or a Clark? When he makes a lazy pass or over penetrates and doesn't pass the ball and causes a turnover, does his 2-3 or even 5 or 6 extra points make up for that when Jenifer is putting the shots in better players hands and not turning it over as much? I say no and thus far so has Mick. And he knows a ton more about basketball than anyone on this board.

With that said, sure Cane Broome is the better talent and sure we'll be better off if he can get his stuff together and run this team the right way. But don't be fooled into thinking he's that player right now. Mick is doing the right thing and not rewarding him simply for having more talent.

I feel like broomes mistakes were not coming from being selfish but more trying not to be selfish, passing the ball too much and not just doing his thing. He is learning to be a piece of a good team and not the whole team.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Umm...Yes.

Xavier always comes out and puts us in a early hole. You can't come out down 9-1 (or more in years past) especially on the road. The game is over before it truly starts. We all can respect JJ not turning the ball over very often, but that is playing to "not lose" instead of playing to win. In what world is having JJ Fire up the first 2 shots a good thing? (Probably the same world where Jeremy Hill starts over Joe Mixon)

JJ starting is not even close to why we lost this game.

 

[Freak25]

I'm most embarrassed by Cronin.

I'm not a Cronin hater either. I just don't understand how he can teach discipline to his players when he lets JP Macura get in his head. You can't do that when You Coach a team like UC.

 

[cincyguy13]

I'm most embarrassed by Cronin.

I'm not a Cronin hater either. I just don't understand how he can teach discipline to his players when he lets JP Macura get in his head. You can't do that when You Coach a team like UC.

Agree, you can’t fight players. Or try to fight players. He needs to act like an adult. I think him getting killed every year in this game is getting to him. He says it doesn’t matter but he grew up in the city so I don’t believe that one