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There is no doubt a window is opening for Morman. I hope he takes full advantage and doesn't force too much. He can get minutes and be productive, he just has to trust his role.
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PG Cobb/Caupain/Morman
SG Caupain/Morman/KJ
SF Shaq/Sanders/Morman
PF Clark/Shaq/Ellis/Moore?
C Ellis/DeBerry/Clatk
^ This is what we need imo. Obviously the backup spots can be mixed and matched based on game flow.
NOBODY lost it. If you can't follow don't be involved with everything. Don't tell me Caupain had good game though.
Before game 95% of guys would've put money on Sanders over Shaq. Cobb played with DeBerry, Mormon, Shaq. Only really played with Caupain final 6-7mins
Played a lot with TC. That tells it all
I'll let Mormon get TC minutes at PG. Caupain a average 15+ off ball where he doesn't have to think. HIs rebounding numbers a good up also
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Dee Davis (40 minutes) +2
M Davis +7
Stainbrook +7
Abell -2
Reynolds -10
Farr +8
Bluett +1
Mecura +0
M Davis +7
Stainbrook +7
Abell -2
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So according to them numbers Cobb was most effective player tonight?
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Yes
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No, that is not what those numbers represent. Gary Clark was a minus 6. If anyone watched that game and thought he was one of the least effective players on the floor they are insane. Those numbers are skewed based on situations and rotations. If you want to know how effective somebody was look at their stat line. Points, rebounds, blocks, assists, deflections, are how you tell how effective somebody was in the game. Jermaine Sanders could be plus 20 but have zero points, rebounds, and assists. That metric is just a snapshot that doesnt come to considering all the factors that come into being "effective"
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OK. You're right Jack. I should've posted it along with the minutes played. I agree with you...Clark and Caupain were hurt by playing with KJ and Sanders. But there is no denying Cobb...he is ALWAYS right at the top of the +/-. Anyway you slice it, I think it is obvious that Cobb has to be on the floor. When he was in tonight, we were at our best. But the guys he was in with absolutely have a lot to do with that. Or maybe more importantly, the guys he wasn't in with...
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2 things are crystal clear to me...
1. Cobb, Caupain, Morman, Shaq, Clark, Ellis and DeBerry need to get all the minutes. With Sanders getting up to 15 at most depending on his shooting and the foul situation.
2. This is a team that needs to play man to man when DeBerry is in, when we want to go 3 guard/small (Shaq falls asleep in the zone), and when we're playing teams that shoot the 3 well (we're probably more likely to go small in this situation anyway).
1. Cobb, Caupain, Morman, Shaq, Clark, Ellis and DeBerry need to get all the minutes. With Sanders getting up to 15 at most depending on his shooting and the foul situation.
2. This is a team that needs to play man to man when DeBerry is in, when we want to go 3 guard/small (Shaq falls asleep in the zone), and when we're playing teams that shoot the 3 well (we're probably more likely to go small in this situation anyway).
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+/- w/ minutes
Cobb +10 (26 minutes)
Morman +7 (6)
Shaq +5 (25)
Ellis +2 (29)
DeBerry -2 (10)
Clark -6 (36)
Caupain -7 (35)
Sanders -10 (19)
Johnson -12 (14)
Cobb +10 (26 minutes)
Morman +7 (6)
Shaq +5 (25)
Ellis +2 (29)
DeBerry -2 (10)
Clark -6 (36)
Caupain -7 (35)
Sanders -10 (19)
Johnson -12 (14)
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How does KJ still get more than twice as many minutes as Morman?
It blows my mind
I am not a XU troll (UC double alumnus) but at least for this century, we have to admit XU is simply a better basketball program than UC. They are in a better conference with more TV $$$$, recruit better basketball players (not better athletes) and they own us on the court. It's sad that it has come to this but it's hard to argue otherwise. We may be NIT bound if the ship isn't righted soon.
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These are where these numbers are bogus. You tell me a guy that shoots 3-11 was effective? Let's compare stat lines:
TC - 9 points 3-5 (1-3 from three)
Cobb - 9 points 3-11 (3-10 from three) He was agressive? He shot jumpers all night!
TC - 6 rebounds
Cobb - 3 rebounds
TC - 2-2 ft's
Cobb - 0-0
TC - 4 assist
Cobb - 2 assist
TC - 2 steals
Cobb - 0 steals
TC - 1 PF
Cobb - 3 PF
Neither guy had a turnover.
On the season Troy shoots .469/Cobb .374
3 pt. % Troy shoots .407/Cobb .331
PPG Troy 9.9/Cobb 8.0 - And here's the intersting part. In spite of Troy playing more minutes Cobb has taken 10 more shots so don't use the "Troy plays more argument"
Ft line Troy .829/Cobb .813
Assist to turnovers Troy 3.4-2.2/Cobb 1.4-1.0
RPG Troy 3.5/Cobb 2.5
SPG Troy 1.3/Cobb .9
Troy clearly the more efficient player in every way so let's stop any Cobb should start over TC talk. If you want to argue they belong on the floor together I'm with you. Bottom line, play them together, that's when the offense flows at it's best. But let's put this argument to rest. In game numbers don't lie.
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I saw ya and stood up for you Waite. I knew it was you once they said Norwood ha.
Guys played their guts out last night. Despite what some claim, halftime adjustments were spot-on. Xavier was en fuego again, just like last year, when we got waxed with MC roaming the sidelines. Where were the adjustments last year?
LD will take the fall for this year, but this team can't shoot deep (ranked #277 in 3P%) and lacks the experience to close-out games. MC emphasizes experience, and after reviewing the big picture emerging from the data, you can see why. If you don't have the talent, you better have experience.
It's too bad for LD, because unless he finishes strong, it's essentially the nail-in-the-coffin, in terms of him getting another decent head-coaching job.
Next year's team will improve, but the recruiting is just not good enough. I was watching a "Throwback Thursday" on the Bearcats YouTube page and the starting frontline was Kenyon Martin, Danny Fortson, and Ruben Patterson. Bottom line, the program was on a completely different level when Huggins was here.
LD will take the fall for this year, but this team can't shoot deep (ranked #277 in 3P%) and lacks the experience to close-out games. MC emphasizes experience, and after reviewing the big picture emerging from the data, you can see why. If you don't have the talent, you better have experience.
It's too bad for LD, because unless he finishes strong, it's essentially the nail-in-the-coffin, in terms of him getting another decent head-coaching job.
Next year's team will improve, but the recruiting is just not good enough. I was watching a "Throwback Thursday" on the Bearcats YouTube page and the starting frontline was Kenyon Martin, Danny Fortson, and Ruben Patterson. Bottom line, the program was on a completely different level when Huggins was here.
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