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What seed will UC get this year in the Tournament?

  • 1-4

    Votes: 24 38.7%
  • 5-8

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • 9-16

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    62
Next Season Over/Unders

I'm making these up, and I'll number them so it's easy to make your choices.

1. Troy Caupain O/U 14.2 PPG
2. Jacob Evans O/U 12.7 PPG
3. Gary Clark O/U 12.1 PPG
4. Kyle Washington. O/U 10.7 PPG
5
Jarron Cumberland O/U 8.4 PPG
6. Kevin Johnson O/U 22.5 Minutes/Game
7. O/U Team 3 PT % 35.6%
8. Gary Clark O/U 9.2 RPG
9. Troy Caupain O/U 5.0 APG
10. Quadri Moore + Justin Jenifer O/U 6.3 PPG
Those are solid lines. I'll take Over on #6,8 ,9 and 10 . Under on #1-5 & 7.
 
Next Season Over/Unders

I'm making these up, and I'll number them so it's easy to make your choices.

1. Troy Caupain O/U 14.2 PPG
2. Jacob Evans O/U 12.7 PPG
3. Gary Clark O/U 12.1 PPG
4. Kyle Washington. O/U 10.7 PPG
5
Jarron Cumberland O/U 8.4 PPG
6. Kevin Johnson O/U 22.5 Minutes/Game
7. O/U Team 3 PT % 35.6%
8. Gary Clark O/U 9.2 RPG
9. Troy Caupain O/U 5.0 APG
10. Quadri Moore + Justin Jenifer O/U 6.3 PPG

Under on all of them except for number 4 and 10
 
Next Season Over/Unders

I'm making these up, and I'll number them so it's easy to make your choices.

1. Troy Caupain O/U 14.2 PPG
2. Jacob Evans O/U 12.7 PPG
3. Gary Clark O/U 12.1 PPG
4. Kyle Washington. O/U 10.7 PPG
5
Jarron Cumberland O/U 8.4 PPG
6. Kevin Johnson O/U 22.5 Minutes/Game
7. O/U Team 3 PT % 35.6%
8. Gary Clark O/U 9.2 RPG
9. Troy Caupain O/U 5.0 APG
10. Quadri Moore + Justin Jenifer O/U 6.3 PPG



Over 2, 6, 9, 10 under rest
 
Next Season Over/Unders

I'm making these up, and I'll number them so it's easy to make your choices.

1. Troy Caupain O/U 14.2 PPG
2. Jacob Evans O/U 12.7 PPG
3. Gary Clark O/U 12.1 PPG
4. Kyle Washington. O/U 10.7 PPG
5
Jarron Cumberland O/U 8.4 PPG
6. Kevin Johnson O/U 22.5 Minutes/Game
7. O/U Team 3 PT % 35.6%
8. Gary Clark O/U 9.2 RPG
9. Troy Caupain O/U 5.0 APG
10. Quadri Moore + Justin Jenifer O/U 6.3 PPG

1. Under
2. Under
3. Under
4. Under
5. Under
6. Over
7. Under
8. Over
9. Under
10. Over
 
Next Season Over/Unders

I'm making these up, and I'll number them so it's easy to make your choices.

1. Troy Caupain O/U 14.2 PPG
2. Jacob Evans O/U 12.7 PPG
3. Gary Clark O/U 12.1 PPG
4. Kyle Washington. O/U 10.7 PPG
5
Jarron Cumberland O/U 8.4 PPG
6. Kevin Johnson O/U 22.5 Minutes/Game
7. O/U Team 3 PT % 35.6%
8. Gary Clark O/U 9.2 RPG
9. Troy Caupain O/U 5.0 APG
10. Quadri Moore + Justin Jenifer O/U 6.3 PPG

1) Troy went from 5-9-13 his first 3 years. Im saying over
2) With an increased role, full off season, and a year under his belt I think Evans will be around there. Im going either he or gary has 12. The other has 10
3) answered on #2
4) under mostly because of an unknown how he will preform in first year with team
5) I think Cumberland is around the 8 PPG mark. So push ha
6) over. Hes averaged 21 the last 2 years
7) under
8)Over
9)Im all in on troy this year. OVer
10) Quad and Jenifer have to be better. So for the sake of the team. Over
 
If Evans doesn't get the touches he did in the st.joes game, this team is doomed. Without a doubt will be one of the greats from Cincinnati.
 
Jon Rothstein has Cincinnati as #18 in his early rankings.

I think if you take some of the reputable top 25 preseason rankings, average them, that is a reasonable predictor. We tend to over analyze our "inside" information. For example pictures of the weight lifting, stories of how Shaquille was bummed out after losing to Kentucky etcetera. I'm just me being more cautious going forward.

We also know that the top four from the preseason top 25 is a pretty good predictor of NCAA tournament success. There are exceptions. Like Michigan State. I'm not sure what Villanova was ranked preseason.
 
Villanova was ranked ~10 preseason. (11 in AP, 9 in Coaches)
Thanks. This year I'm going to save a few well known top 25 preseason rankings. AP coaches poll ESPN. Then I will compare them to the end of the season pre and post tournament.

Some overachieve with less talent in the regular season, but the cream usually Rises to the top later in the tournament. Talent wins.

Also curious how we think our team will do next year vs the prognosticators. I think they don't know all of the subtle details we know but they have a good idea of our overall Talent level without the fan bias.

Also wanna compare this year's preseason rankings to the final results. Just had my hopes too high this past year. Only to come Crashing Down
 
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I think if you take some of the reputable top 25 preseason rankings, average them, that is a reasonable predictor. We tend to over analyze our "inside" information. For example pictures of the weight lifting, stories of how Shaquille was bummed out after losing to Kentucky etcetera. I'm just me being more cautious going forward.

We also know that the top four from the preseason top 25 is a pretty good predictor of NCAA tournament success. There are exceptions. Like Michigan State. I'm not sure what Villanova was ranked preseason.

Honestly we weren't that far from being the team a lot of people were expecting. If we split the buzzer beater games (2 pt games and overtime games we lost all 7) if we manage to win 3-4 of those we would have been ranked about where I thought we would be as a team coming into the season.

So there was reason for optimism...but there was an IT factor that we just didn't seem to have. That factor is so small it only needed to account for 2-3 points in 3 or 4 games. I think that IT factor is having a guy that can reliably create plays in crunch time whether it's making a clutch shot or a great pass.

Hopefully next year Troy and Jacob can do some of that when we need it. We haven't had that IT factor since SK and he had a very average (at best) supporting cast. Put an SK on the wing on this year's squad and we are an elite 8 or final 4 team. We don't need an all American but we do need someone who can create plays reliably.
 
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