2017-18 Stats/Rankings

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Do they have a bracketology page? According to bracketmatrix's methodology, Dave Ommen at Bracketville is ranked #1. I don't see Screen the Screener or Mike Randle/ Gus Kearns at first glance though.

No they had a guest on that specific podcast. It was Jonathan warriner. I didn’t verify if it was true or not.


It’s just what they mentioned on the podcast.


But I do like this podcast
 
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http://www.barttorvik.com/

Just stumbled on this because of Reddit. Figured anyone here would appreciate it.

Haven't checked it out completely, but the site has a lot of really good info and almost seems like a knock off kenoom that is completely free.

***UPDATE
Seriously can't believe this site is free. It's awesome.***

Best part is when you go under an individual team, you can tinker with projections and run simulations with however many fixed outcomes of games including conference tournament. But smartly, it's incorporating rpi tiers and rpi to come up with the seeds etc.

I could play around on this thing all day
 
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http://www.barttorvik.com/

Just stumbled on this because of Reddit. Figured anyone here would appreciate it.

Haven't checked it out completely, but the site has a lot of really good info and almost seems like a knock off kenoom that is completely free.

***UPDATE
Seriously can't believe this site is free. It's awesome.***

Best part is when you go under an individual team, you can tinker with projections and run simulations with however many fixed outcomes of games including conference tournament. But smartly, it's incorporating rpi tiers and rpi to come up with the seeds etc.

I could play around on this thing all day


Great find! This has some amazing stuff
 
http://www.barttorvik.com/

Just stumbled on this because of Reddit. Figured anyone here would appreciate it.

Haven't checked it out completely, but the site has a lot of really good info and almost seems like a knock off kenoom that is completely free.

***UPDATE
Seriously can't believe this site is free. It's awesome.***

Best part is when you go under an individual team, you can tinker with projections and run simulations with however many fixed outcomes of games including conference tournament. But smartly, it's incorporating rpi tiers and rpi to come up with the seeds etc.

I could play around on this thing all day

Nice work! Very cool stuff here...
 
I've started to read into the methodology for Bart Torvik's T-Rank. He admits to copying Kenpom:
T-Rank is in the same league with Kenpom (no surprise, since I copied Kenpom liberally)

According to Massey's Rankings, T-Rank has the 4th best prediction success rate at 69.8%, just behind Kenpom's 69.9%. At #1 with 70.2% is a site called Singer, which is just a Google Docs spreadsheet that also uses Kenpom. This confirms in my mind that Kenpom is the best original algorithm. The other popular ones are Sagarin (ranked #30) and ESPN BPI (ranked #32).

The Teamsheet Ranks page lists the metrics at the top of the actual NCAA team sheet: http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2018/team-sheet?team=Cincinnati.
T-Ranketology simply lists the teams in order according to the "Overall" number at the top right of the team sheet. So, it's not really taking into account RPI Groups. It's still a nice unbiased automated tool.
 
I've started to read into the methodology for Bart Torvik's T-Rank. He admits to copying Kenpom:

T-Ranketology simply lists the teams in order according to the "Overall" number at the top right of the team sheet. So, it's not really taking into account RPI Groups. It's still a nice unbiased automated tool.

Interesting...last year our team sheet rank was #22 and we got a 6 seed. Those numbers equate very nicely. This year our team sheet rank (so far) is #5. That would be the #1 two seed.

Needless to say it will be interesting to see how the committee dismantles that resume...lol! Near as I can tell this is all current and not projected stuff.
 
Interesting...last year our team sheet rank was #22 and we got a 6 seed. Those numbers equate very nicely. This year our team sheet rank (so far) is #5. That would be the #1 two seed.

Needless to say it will be interesting to see how the committee dismantles that resume...lol! Near as I can tell this is all current and not projected stuff.

The year before last our team sheet rank was #32 and we got a 9 seed. Again, this is equates almost perfectly. I guess you could quibble and say we deserved the last 8 seed.
 
Near as I can tell this is all current and not projected stuff.
There are actually three different T-Ranketologies. The one I described that's based on team sheets is current. He also has two others that combine a bunch of different factors, one of which is current and the other a projection. In those, he does include a system to handle RPI tiers:
1-25: 20 pts
26-50: 10 pts
51-100: 3 pts
101-200 loss: -1 pt
201+ loss: -4 pts

I'm not a big fan of this. I'm not sure why he wouldn't use the new RPI Groups. Plus, this system will tend to favor teams in better conferences.

I can't really complain though. There's a ton of good stuff on this site.
 
Interesting you run the AAC tourney simulator and we are by far the favorites which is not surprising. However...

Houston looks to have the 2nd best chance to reach the semis and the finals just slightly ahead of WSU. That is somewhat shocking.
 
Interesting you run the AAC tourney simulator and we are by far the favorites which is not surprising. However...

Houston looks to have the 2nd best chance to reach the semis and the finals just slightly ahead of WSU. That is somewhat shocking.

Scratch that WSU is slightly ahead for the finals but not the semis. They are neck and neck.
 
Yeah and Clemson jumps us. And up 6 spots. After beating UNC and squeaking by wake forest. Could you imagine the cats ever jumping six spots with a couple wins like that lol. ESPN is obsessed with the ACC
Of course, since the 2000’s, out of 17 national champs, the ACC has 7 of them - hard not to be impressed
 
We are ranked #6 in the country folks. Not sure how much more we can ask. If you asked me pre season about #6? I would say yes please and not ask any more questions!!

The rankings and the metrics are lining up. Our committee column wins are right there. Bracket Matrix is lagging behind a little but not a lot...1 seed line maybe.

It's been a fun year! I still think we have more in the tank on offense. Can't ask much more on defense. This team has something special!
 
http://www.barttorvik.com/

Just stumbled on this because of Reddit. Figured anyone here would appreciate it.

Haven't checked it out completely, but the site has a lot of really good info and almost seems like a knock off kenoom that is completely free.

***UPDATE
Seriously can't believe this site is free. It's awesome.***

Best part is when you go under an individual team, you can tinker with projections and run simulations with however many fixed outcomes of games including conference tournament. But smartly, it's incorporating rpi tiers and rpi to come up with the seeds etc.

I could play around on this thing all day



and we moved up to 2 on this site after last night.
 
and we moved up to 2 on this site after last night.

I checked that out too...lol! That's about as high as I have seen us anywhere. It's nice to see.

Does anyone know what our RPI was before we went on our current winning streak? We are 8 now...but we may have been over 100 back then...I don't recall.
 
I checked that out too...lol! That's about as high as I have seen us anywhere. It's nice to see.

Does anyone know what our RPI was before we went on our current winning streak? We are 8 now...but we may have been over 100 back then...I don't recall.

Our RPI was 128 directly after the Florida loss. Then was 42 the next week after we beat Miss St and @UCLA.
 
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