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[jacobkdoyle]

Our last home loss was to Temple on Dec 29, 2015. It was also our last loss outside of Kenpom Tiers, which is the best way I know of to measure a "bad loss".

Ok gotcha. Makes sense. The road one doesn't qualify then.

 

[waterhead]

You guys seem confused. We got swept by Temple that year and they won the league. The first loss was end of December 2015 at home. Then we lost by 2 in 2OT at Temple a couple weeks later. Are we saying one of these would be our last bad loss? I don't like Temple but they did go 14-4 in the league that year.

I am not confused I just don't know what their RPI was at the point we lost to them in Jan of 16. I would imagine if they won our conference they were not sub 100 RPI so it would not be a bad loss.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

So the last time we lost at home was the last time we had a bad loss, and that was over 2 years ago.

 

[waterhead]

I am not confused I just don't know what their RPI was at the point we lost to them in Jan of 16. I would imagine if they won our conference they were not sub 100 RPI so it would not be a bad loss.

I just looked...Temple finished that season (2015-2016) at #63 RPI so it was not a bad loss.

 

[sedziobs]

Things change when looking at RPI instead of Kenpom. Temple's RPI in 2015-16 was 69, so the home game against them was Group 2 by today's standards. Our worst loss would have been at Memphis (RPI 140) on Feb 6 2016, which would be a Group 3 loss today. So maybe that is our most recent bad loss.

 

[waterhead]

I just looked...Temple finished that season (2015-2016) at #63 RPI so it was not a bad loss.

It looks like Memphis was #138 and we lost to them on Feb 6 2016. WE can go two full calendar years without losing at home or a bad loss if we can make it until Feb 6.

 

[sedziobs]

This all shows why it's important to keep track of RPI even now. Memphis that year had a Kenpom of 75, so the road game was Tier A (same as Group 1). Definitely not a bad loss by that measure. But their RPI was 63 spots higher, making it a Group 3 game. Huge difference. It's absolutely arbitrary, but it's what the committee sees.

 

[waterhead]

It looks like Memphis was #138 and we lost to them on Feb 6 2016. WE can go two full calendar years without losing at home or a bad loss if we can make it until Feb 6.

I know no other teams can say that since we already have the longest home win streak...but to add the "no bad loss" variable...it just adds to the achievement. I guess when talking about making the dance for 7 years in a row we look like a very consistent team at the very worst.

Obviously we want more in March....but the other stuff is fun to talk about at the water cooler.

 

[waterhead]

No home loss in over two calendar years. No sub 100 loss in almost 2 years (feb 6). 7 straight trips to the dance (almost assuredly 8). Something is being done right.

We just need that one last variable of winning a conference championship and/or getting to the Elite 8+ to get us over the last hump. We need to have that confidence and swagger to get it done. I know Kyle has it...I think Cane has it. We need Gary and Jacob to have it. They have done great so far (Gary and Jacob)...but we need that killer instinct again.

Intimidate, dominate, celebrate!! My favorite UC add campaign of all time!

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I know no other teams can say that since we already have the longest home win streak...but to add the "no bad loss" variable...it just adds to the achievement. I guess when talking about making the dance for 7 years in a row we look like a very consistent team at the very worst.

Obviously we want more in March....but the other stuff is fun to talk about at the water cooler.

Yeah always nice to be able to drop jaw dropping stats that are positives.

 

[waterhead]

I remember looking back. I transferred from OSU my soph year to UC. I think Huggins was in his first year. I lived in a house of 8 guys on Eden St and we started going to every game from then on. I remember sleeping on the floor over night near the ticket office (in the halls) in the Final 4 season. They took that option away from us in the following years. We took turns camping out and you could bring one student ID and get 4 tickets. We showed up one game against Indiana with 13 guys in white T-shirts spelling out "Huggins Heroes" in the 2nd row hoping to get on ESPN. Some turds in front of us killed our chances. I went to Midnight Madness most years and was right next to Digger Phelps in the crowd when the ENTIRE basketball season started with UC Madness. I remember seeing my arm on ESPN...lol!

I won a basketball in a game early on that year when they called my ticket. Signed by the entire team and coach...but who knew we were going to be that good? I played open gym with it and wore off the signatures...lol! I don't care. I just want to feel that whole experience again. This is the year for me. I am excited as hell. I remember seeing a juco PG NVE going from non starter to transforming a team to greatness. We got a nice draw in the tourney that year. But I see a new guard in Cane this year who reminds me so much of what NVE did that year. They could be twins as far as I am concerned.

Bottom line is...it's f-ing time right now...this year! We can't expect to have teams like this year in and year out. We need to capitalize!!

 

[Jon Rycek]

If Xavier can win at home on Saturday, they will likely stay right ahead of us.

I considered that, not so sure though. They got spanked, even if it was on the road.

 

[justinhub2003]

I considered that, not so sure though. They got spanked, even if it was on the road.

Let’s just hope they lose.

 

[Jon Rycek]

Let’s just hope they lose.

That's a guarantee lol

 

[Jon Rycek]

That's a guarantee lol

Me hoping they'll lose, not that they actually will lol

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Can't believe KU came back big on West Va again.

 

[ZCat]

Can't believe KU came back big on West Va again.

I think nearly 6/7 final shots were 3's. Such a disappointment.

 

[Protected1]

I think nearly 6/7 final shots were 3's. Such a disappointment.

West Virginias defense failed them. They got extremely sloppy in the second half. All those turnovers on offense and lapses on defense. Too many corner threes. I learned something this year about that team tho. Jevon Carter is an all American and Sagaba Konate is a beast near the rim.

 

[Helicopter]

West Virginias defense failed them. They got extremely sloppy in the second half. All those turnovers on offense and lapses on defense. Too many corner threes. I learned something this year about that team tho. Jevon Carter is an all American and Sagaba Konate is a beast near the rim.

Is Jevon Carter really an all-american?

I'm not impressed by three straight final possessions of crossover, step back, contested three, clank.

 

[cincrulz11]

Is Jevon Carter really an all-american?

I'm not impressed by three straight final possessions of crossover, step back, contested three, clank.

probably the best on ball defender in college, ARate of 33.4, 39.8% from 3, 84.3% from FT line.


i'd say he's in the conversation.