Big East expanding

[Thegreatone]

i think it is time for the homerun swing and give ND the ultimatum. You have NOTHING to lose and EVERYTHING to gain. Now I know it is probably not going to happen but you got to take a shot. Force them to be uncomfortable or somthing.

I think you got to raise the buyout to at least 15 MM and see who is willing to committ and who isnt

 

[JasonS]

i think it is time for the homerun swing and give ND the ultimatum. You have NOTHING to lose and EVERYTHING to gain. Now I know it is probably not going to happen but you got to take a shot. Force them to be uncomfortable or somthing.

I think you got to raise the buyout to at least 15 MM and see who is willing to committ and who isnt

Too late for all of this unfortunately. Of course, if Notre Dame was smart, they would join the Big East for football and look at it as the easy way for them to make BCS games. You know the Big East would give them a sweetheart deal too.

 

[ralph1950]

i think it is time for the homerun swing and give ND the ultimatum. You have NOTHING to lose and EVERYTHING to gain. Now I know it is probably not going to happen but you got to take a shot. Force them to be uncomfortable or somthing.

I think you got to raise the buyout to at least 15 MM and see who is willing to committ and who isnt

As great as you are, you do not yet comprehend the status of having Notre Dame in your conference for basketball and as they say olympic sports. When you have as many years on you as The Ralph you will understand. Notre Dame as one of the truly national universities brings much to the Big East. Notre Dame has played a big part in keeping the Big East together. An ultimatum to ND would not be an intelligent thing to do.

 

[ralph1950]

DaveSittler Dave Sittler
by AdamZagoria
Big 12 source: "Louisville next in line."

As I stated earlier the story is Louisville has rejected the Big 12 as have UC and WVU.

You believe twitter, I believe the university Presidents.

Word on Big East expansion should come shortly, possibly today.

 

[UCBearcats]

As I stated earlier the story is Louisville has rejected the Big 12 as have UC and WVU.

You believe twitter, I believe the university Presidents.

Word on Big East expansion should come shortly, possibly today.

Where is the story where it says that those schools have rejected Big 12 offers? Please link or paste the story. Oh that's right, there is no story. It's just your opinion. Stated over and over and over and over again.

 

[bearcat jeff]

Drink the Kool Aid Ralph. WVU, UConn and Rutgers are all actively seeking to move out of the Big East. Again "We’ve stayed loyal, and by staying loyal we’re not sure what’s going to happen to us.” direct quote from Rick Pitino.

By doing as you have hoped they'd do schools like UC and Louisville will be hurt tremendously by what's taking place. They are allowing times to pass them by. All these presidents you are putting so much loyalty in are after one thing. Self preservation for their university. They have all stated loyalty while working behind the scenes to move. UC will end up in a horrible football conference, if there is football at all, and hugely reduced basketball conference. Guess that's what will make you happy. Loyalty is admirable, but blind loyalty will destroy you. Rick Pitino now understands this. This is about Greed Ralph, not loyalty. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[bearcat jeff]

Dead on article by Gary Parrish of cbssportsline.com:

The next move in the ongoing game of conference realignment has been made.

And the Big 12 made it.

Which is why the Big 12 seems poised to survive in this eat-or-be-eaten world of college athletics while the Big East continues to get picked apart by anybody and everybody. Pittsburgh and Syracuse announced last month that they're leaving for the ACC; that took the Big East down to seven football-playing schools. Now TCU, according to my colleague Brett McMurphy, is headed to the Big 12 and leaving the Big East with just six football-playing schools ... at least one of which (Connecticut) has made it clear it would like to find a new home, too. Meantime, the Big East has done nothing of note. The league is just sitting there taking punches to the face, one after another, and, consequently, sooner or later, it'll be down for the count and in no position to adequately recover.

The possible additions of Army and Navy won't fix the Big East's problems.

At this point, I can't imagine anything really will.

What the Big East should've done is tried to take advantage of the Big 12's turmoil last month and offered invitations to any Midwest school willing to leave the Texas-Oklahoma fight behind. It might not have worked, obviously. But if we've learned anything over the past few years it's that one way to strengthen yourself is to damage the competition, and that's something the ACC highlighted when it targeted Pittsburgh and Syracuse. The Big 12, under new leadership, also understands this approach. But the Big East never has and apparently never will. So it can add Army and Navy if it wants, and perhaps East Carolina, Temple, UCF and SMU, too. But the decision to be reactive rather than proactive has put the Big East in a nearly impossible situation, and, truth be told, the storied league has only itself to blame.

My Note: If Missouri jumps from the Big 12, Louisville is one of the first to be considered to fill that void. After that look for WVU and Cincy to be next. This is my opinion based on what I've read and heard. The Big 12 is not set in stone that they'll remain at 10. There are considerations for jumping to 12-14.

 

[ralph1950]

Drink the Kool Aid Ralph. WVU, UConn and Rutgers are all actively seeking to move out of the Big East. Again "We’ve stayed loyal, and by staying loyal we’re not sure what’s going to happen to us.” direct quote from Rick Pitino.

By doing as you have hoped they'd do schools like UC and Louisville will be hurt tremendously by what's taking place. They are allowing times to pass them by. All these presidents you are putting so much loyalty in are after one thing. Self preservation for their university. They have all stated loyalty while working behind the scenes to move. UC will end up in a horrible football conference, if there is football at all, and hugely reduced basketball conference. Guess that's what will make you happy. Loyalty is admirable, but blind loyalty will destroy you. Rick Pitino now understands this. This is about Greed Ralph, not loyalty. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State want out of the Big 12 and Missouri is only waiting on SEC approval to bolt. Makes no sense to want to join a conference that is going to replace the four with Rice, Houston, SMU, and Tulane.

 

[ralph1950]

Dead on article by Gary Parrish of cbssportsline.com:

The next move in the ongoing game of conference realignment has been made.

And the Big 12 made it.

Which is why the Big 12 seems poised to survive in this eat-or-be-eaten world of college athletics while the Big East continues to get picked apart by anybody and everybody. Pittsburgh and Syracuse announced last month that they're leaving for the ACC; that took the Big East down to seven football-playing schools. Now TCU, according to my colleague Brett McMurphy, is headed to the Big 12 and leaving the Big East with just six football-playing schools ... at least one of which (Connecticut) has made it clear it would like to find a new home, too. Meantime, the Big East has done nothing of note. The league is just sitting there taking punches to the face, one after another, and, consequently, sooner or later, it'll be down for the count and in no position to adequately recover.

The possible additions of Army and Navy won't fix the Big East's problems.

At this point, I can't imagine anything really will.

What the Big East should've done is tried to take advantage of the Big 12's turmoil last month and offered invitations to any Midwest school willing to leave the Texas-Oklahoma fight behind. It might not have worked, obviously. But if we've learned anything over the past few years it's that one way to strengthen yourself is to damage the competition, and that's something the ACC highlighted when it targeted Pittsburgh and Syracuse. The Big 12, under new leadership, also understands this approach. But the Big East never has and apparently never will. So it can add Army and Navy if it wants, and perhaps East Carolina, Temple, UCF and SMU, too. But the decision to be reactive rather than proactive has put the Big East in a nearly impossible situation, and, truth be told, the storied league has only itself to blame.

The CBS guy does not realize that the Big East has two extremely valuable assets, a guaranteed BCS Bowl game and Madison Square Garden for the Big East BB tourney. Teams like ECU and UCF are begging to get into the Big East for those 2 reasons and that is why UC is staying in the Big East.

 

[bearcat jeff]

The CBS guy does not realize that the Big East has two extremely valuable assets, a guaranteed BCS Bowl game and Madison Square Garden for the Big East BB tourney. Teams like ECU and UCF are begging to get into the Big East for those 2 reasons and that is why UC is staying in the Big East.

The BCS bowl game can and will be taken. The ACC is already exploring moving their tourny to MSG and they will get it starting 2015. ECU and UCF huh? Wow, if you're excited about those prospects you're truly blind to what's happening.

 

[Kingsley Court]

The CBS guy does not realize that the Big East has two extremely valuable assets, a guaranteed BCS Bowl game and Madison Square Garden for the Big East BB tourney. Teams like ECU and UCF are begging to get into the Big East for those 2 reasons and that is why UC is staying in the Big East.

It seems to me is that what you don't realize, and everyone else does, is that this new Big East will not be guaranteed a BCS bowl game. Also, there are a lot of reports saying the ACC will be moving to madison square garden.

Where is the report you have been talking about with the Big 12 and UC/WVU turning them down? If that's the case, If I were a UC fan I would be absolutely livid that they turned down the Big12. Would be one of the dumbest things they could do.

 

[bearcat jeff]

It seems to me is that what you don't realize, and everyone else does, is that this new Big East will not be guaranteed a BCS bowl game. Also, there are a lot of reports saying the ACC will be moving to madison square garden.

Where is the report you have been talking about with the Big 12 and UC/WVU turning them down? If that's the case, If I were a UC fan I would be absolutely livid that they turned down the Big12. Would be one of the dumbest things they could do.

He is basing "everything" on the comments by the president that UC is committed to holding the Big East together, while ignoring the fact that he has also said they are actively looking at options and have in fact spoke to the Big 12. As usual Ralph lives in his own world, hears what he wants and chooses only those things taken out of context to support his baseless arguments.

Let's not ignore that the SEC will eventually add one more school to even things out. Missouri would rather be in the Big 10 but would take an SEC invite and that would open the St. Louis/Kansas City market up for the SEC. They could also poach a team from the ACC. Perhaps Clemson, V. Tech or Florida State. Once this happens a reaction will take place and more dominoes fall.

It's not a time to stand pat. You have to be proactive because you'll have no control once slots are filled but to accept being in a watered down league with no attractiveness to garner national television games.

Anybody that supports UC staying in the Little East "if" they have an alternative is smoking dope at this point. It is athletic suicide. The League is going to continue to disentegrate. Rutgers will end up in the ACC or Big 10. UConn is doing all they can do to get into the ACC. If Louisville and UC stand pat they may have well stayed in the CUSA because that is where the Little East is heading.

 

[Kingsley Court]

I know he is, but him making up false reports is a new level IMO.

 

[Thegreatone]

After the Big East was unable to have any schools committ to the conference by adding to the current buyout and not being able to agree on teams to invite to the conference I believe that the Big East is done.

I believe that Cincy and U of L would want to play in a stable Big East but it is clear they will not have a stable Big East anytime soon.

We need to hope that Big 12 wants to go to 12 and that Missouri leaves for SEC. I think UC/UL/WVU get a good look.

I really hope Cincy lands in a BCS conference. It would not be very dissappointing for me personally if they did not.

 

[Kingsley Court]

After the Big East was unable to have any schools committ to the conference by adding to the current buyout and not being able to agree on teams to invite to the conference I believe that the Big East is done.

I believe that Cincy and U of L would want to play in a stable Big East but it is clear they will not have a stable Big East anytime soon.

We need to hope that Big 12 wants to go to 12 and that Missouri leaves for SEC. I think UC/UL/WVU get a good look.

I really hope Cincy lands in a BCS conference. It would not be very dissappointing for me personally if they did not.

I'm assuming you didn't want that in there?

 

[ralph1950]

After the Big East was unable to have any schools committ to the conference by adding to the current buyout and not being able to agree on teams to invite to the conference I believe that the Big East is done.

I believe that Cincy and U of L would want to play in a stable Big East but it is clear they will not have a stable Big East anytime soon.

We need to hope that Big 12 wants to go to 12 and that Missouri leaves for SEC. I think UC/UL/WVU get a good look.

I really hope Cincy lands in a BCS conference. It would not be very dissappointing for me personally if they did not.

Great One the Big East is far from done. Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State are all going to leave the Big 12, it is only a matter of when. UC, UofL, and WVU are not interested in buying a ticket to a ride on the Titanic. The Big East will be able to add Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State when the Big 12 implodes.

 

[ucdave]

Did you read where it states none of the schools have signed? Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State will not sign until Missouri signs. If Missouri does not sign it is Katie bar the door for the other four.

So you're saying that even though the Big 12 unanimously agreed to this, the schools you mention will refuse to sign the contracts. Makes sense. Unbelievable.

Ralph, for a while I thought you were just saying these things just to get a rise out of everyone, now I really think you lack the mental capacity to fully grasp what's going on.

 

[Kingsley Court]

Ralph, for a while I thought you were just saying these things just to get a rise out of everyone, now I really think you lack the mental capacity to fully grasp what's going on.

No, he's still trying to get a rise out of people. The reason being, he has no evidence for any of his claims. He "legitimately" would have believed A&M officials when they denied talking to the SEC. Unless he really believes in "coach talk." He tries getting a rise out of people, he's not that dumb.

You don't honestly think anyone in their right mind would WANT to stay in the big east with all the other schools leaving, do you? You don't think he really believes that those four schools are still actively looking to get out of the big12, do you?

 

[Kingsley Court]

UC, UofL, and WVU are not interested in buying a ticket to a ride on the Titanic.

Anyone else think this is kind of ironic, considering the position those three schools are currently in?

 

[ucdave]

No, he's still trying to get a rise out of people. The reason being, he has no evidence for any of his claims. He "legitimately" would have believed A&M officials when they denied talking to the SEC. Unless he really believes in "coach talk." He tries getting a rise out of people, he's not that dumb.

You don't honestly think anyone in their right mind would WANT to stay in the big east with all the other schools leaving, do you? You don't think he really believes that those four schools are still actively looking to get out of the big12, do you?

Well, I guess if that's the case, everyone needs to just ignore him. I think that's the only way to handle it. Is there an ignore button, I am not aware of one.