TheLivingLegend
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I could care less about IU and their record...
Mick is hardly above 500. That is not acceptable. Clearly you accept mediocrity, I however expect higher for myself and for others.
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I could care less about IU and their record...
Mick is hardly above 500. That is not acceptable. Clearly you accept mediocrity, I however expect higher for myself and for others.
Crean is struggling to recover a major program. He is a good coach, but Mick is showing what a great coach does in a similar situation.
JasonS
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What is unacceptable about 20-6? Did you really expect UC to be 40 games over .500 in Mick's time with the cards he was dealt? Come on man, you're not being reasonable.
Mick is the man!!!!
TheLivingLegend
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Ralphy is never reasonable. Just the opposite side of the pendulum.
20-6 is a very solid record at this stage. An NCAA birth will be a huge step for the program.
JasonS
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Agreed and I have called him out for the same stuff on the other side. I think he baits people just as much as those who are always negative. It is annoying.
As for UC, today's game will say a bunch about this team. Coming off a huge high and probably their best game of the year, can they keep up the intensity and put back to back 40 minute performances together? If so, they could really make a run at the end of the year and be in a good spot heading into March.
adrock
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You seem to like to use the word mediocre too much. And you can almost make it seem believable when you cherry pick stats like that. However, when you dig deeper, you realize that most of those losses came from the first 2 years when Mick was in the infancy of a rebuilding process of a program that was "as close to the death penalty as you can get" (Rick Pitino's words, not mine). Those teams were obviously worse than mediocre as compared to the rest of the nation, going 24-38 in those 2 years. The 3 years after that though, including this year thus far, they are 57-36. This year they are 20-6. What about that seems mediocre to you? The fact that their win total has increased every year? The fact that their APR has increased every year? Or the fact that they've inched closer and closer every year to an NCAA tournament bid?
To be perfectly clear, I don't think you're a "Mick hater." I think you're emotionally frustrated with the amount of losing over the past 5 years as opposed to the amount over the 15 years prior to that and you're allowing your emotions to cloud your mind. The detached, logical person would look at this situation as a whole and say that while Mick has made mistakes in nearly all facets of his job at some time or another, he has done far more good than bad, bringing a program decimated by a terribly handled coaching regime change and a 2-year absence of recruiting back to respectability. And what's more, the logical person would also point out that there's no sign he has plateaued. Higher caliber players are recruited every year, players on the existing roster are developing now more than we had seen early in Mick's career, the win totals are increasing every year, the attendance gets better every year, etc., etc...
Did Bobby Knight win a national championship at Texas Tech? No because he did not have the players he had at Indiana even though he was the same coach. Even if UC could have hired Coach K he most probably would not be as good as Mick's 81-74. Bob Huggins destroyed the UC basketball program on the court and academically. Mick has done a miraculous job rebuilding it, there is nothing mediocre about the job Mick has done, it is one of the greatest rebuilding jobs in the history of college basketball.
TheLivingLegend
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What dont you understand? This is very simple. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT TEXAS TECH, nor IU, nor any other program.
JasonS
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This is a pointless statement. You are crazy if you don't think Coach K would get the best recruits no matter where he coaches. The fact is, Coach K was not coming to UC so why even bring him up. You're on thin ice, Ralph.
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Awesome post!
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www.live-rpi.com has UC up to 39th. Sos up to 94 with wins over rpi #12 St. Johns, #23 Xavier, and #25 Louisville. Lunardi said on ESPNU that Cincy is in ahead of Marquette.
david aka the TYZ
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If only the season ended today. Hopefully we can take down Marquette and assure that we'll be in before them. 9-9 minimum, 10-8 should seal it. I think it's that simple in my opinion. Let's get two more wins and throw in a W in the tourney to help our seed.