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[mdchick]

guys there is no problem here

 

[TheLongHaul]

Then explain to me how Xavier, NKU, Ohio State, Kentucky, Miami, Dayton, Indiana, and Ohio U. have no problems with diversity. I am not saying Cronin is racist. That would be idiotic. But I do think he is prejudice about a white players ability to play basketball in this league. If he tries to recruit players as others have said, then why does he fail EVERY time. There is obviously an issue somewhere. X, 10 miles away, has had no problems in that arena.

Explain to me what white players from X, NKU, Miami, Dayton, and OU you wanted to play here? If UC would have gotten those recruits you would be bitching about his level of recruitment.

UC was the hardest school recruiting McGary for a long time and were the leader for him until he went prep. UC tried to convince him to go to UC instead of going to prep school but he chose prep school instead. Then he absolutely blew up and all the big schools were after him. He became a top 5 recruit and UC had no chance.

UC also recruited Aaron Craft very hard. They recruited him before he went to UT and then recruited him against once he decided to transfer. Unfortunately he chose his home town school of O$U.

Keving Pangos was down to UC and Gonzaga and he chose Gonzaga.

About 2% of the top players are white. Considering that every school misses out on more recruits than they get it's easy to see why they have more black players.

But not that this really matters. You've chosen to ignore the previous facts presented to you such as Adam H was on scholarship. Nick Alridge was offered scholarship. You mentioned it started with Yates but apparently don't remember Bobby Brannen, Keither Gregor, Jackson Julson, Ryan Fletcher, and others?

Bottom line is you are a moron. This isn't new for you. It isn't about you being a racist, it's about you being an idiot.

 

[cincycpaw]

Longhaul, I hate that list!!! Mick the bridesmaid!!!

Thank goodness Lawrence chose UC.

 

[Amberlycolonel]

Explain to me what white players from X, NKU, Miami, Dayton, and OU you wanted to play here? If UC would have gotten those recruits you would be bitching about his level of recruitment.

UC was the hardest school recruiting McGary for a long time and were the leader for him until he went prep. UC tried to convince him to go to UC instead of going to prep school but he chose prep school instead. Then he absolutely blew up and all the big schools were after him. He became a top 5 recruit and UC had no chance.

UC also recruited Aaron Craft very hard. They recruited him before he went to UT and then recruited him against once he decided to transfer. Unfortunately he chose his home town school of O$U.

Keving Pangos was down to UC and Gonzaga and he chose Gonzaga.

About 2% of the top players are white. Considering that every school misses out on more recruits than they get it's easy to see why they have more black players.

But not that this really matters. You've chosen to ignore the previous facts presented to you such as Adam H was on scholarship. Nick Alridge was offered scholarship. You mentioned it started with Yates but apparently don't remember Bobby Brannen, Keither Gregor, Jackson Julson, Ryan Fletcher, and others?

Bottom line is you are a moron. This isn't new for you. It isn't about you being a racist, it's about you being an idiot.

In case you have not noticed, UC is rarely in the hunt for any top 10 talent these days and rarely is up for a top 50. So getting the best white/black players is a little beyond him. I am also aware that we have tried recruiting white players from time to time, but there is a glaring reason, somewhere, as to why they will not come to Clifton. A lot of it has to do with it being inner city, but our other sports do not reflect that issue. Who is he going after for next year? And in 2014? Same in '15. The NCAA recently released a report which showed that 34% of D1 basketball players are white. UC's ratio, and I am giving it an educated guess, hovers around 3%. And I am being generous. I remember Thompson getting pummelled for refusing to recruit white players, stating "there are plenty of other schools for them". He deserved the wrath is received over that. Yet here, there isn't a problem Houston. If you think there is, your an idiot.

 

[Bearcat22]

In case you have not noticed, UC is rarely in the hunt for any top 10 talent these days and rarely is up for a top 50. So getting the best white/black players is a little beyond him. I am also aware that we have tried recruiting white players from time to time, but there is a glaring reason, somewhere, as to why they will not come to Clifton. A lot of it has to do with it being inner city, but our other sports do not reflect that issue. Who is he going after for next year? And in 2014? Same in '15. The NCAA recently released a report which showed that 34% of D1 basketball players are white. UC's ratio, and I am giving it an educated guess, hovers around 3%. And I am being generous. I remember Thompson getting pummelled for refusing to recruit white players, stating "there are plenty of other schools for them". He deserved the wrath is received over that. Yet here, there isn't a problem Houston. If you think there is, your an idiot.

Again, why is this a problem?

You keep shifting blame from Cronin, to institutional racism, back to Cronin. When you're given facts that Cronin recruited causasian players you cried he didn't recruit them hard enough. Now you want more evidence in the 14 & 15 class? Is the ESPN page broken? Do your own research and you'll find more facts that run counter to your arguement. My guess is that your avoiding facts that make your "poor oppressed white athlete" arguement look bad. Cronin and every other coach at UC goes after the best players they can get.

I'm starting to think that it's a civil rights victory that you're actually worried about this.

As an FYI, the planned facility upgrades at Nippert don't include a whites only bathroom.

 

[UCalum08]

I know its pretty hard to watch us play right now, and there isn't really much to talk about anymore but this thread is an embarrassment to UC and fans. Someone needs to close this thread down, what a joke.

 

[Scheids21]

I know its pretty hard to watch us play right now, and there isn't really much to talk about anymore but this thread is an embarrassment to UC and fans. Someone needs to close this thread down, what a joke.

Clarification...Amberly is an embarrassment to UC and fans

 

[ervins84]

Idk y anyone is even bothering to respond to Amb. It's pretty obvious he's only trolling for a response, and probably is a fan of another team in all reality.

 

[Amberlycolonel]

Again, why is this a problem?

You keep shifting blame from Cronin, to institutional racism, back to Cronin. When you're given facts that Cronin recruited causasian players you cried he didn't recruit them hard enough. Now you want more evidence in the 14 & 15 class? Is the ESPN page broken? Do your own research and you'll find more facts that run counter to your arguement. My guess is that your avoiding facts that make your "poor oppressed white athlete" arguement look bad. Cronin and every other coach at UC goes after the best players they can get.

I'm starting to think that it's a civil rights victory that you're actually worried about this.

As an FYI, the planned facility upgrades at Nippert don't include a whites only bathroom.

The fact is that Cronin has had 1 white player, an eastern europeon, during his tenure here. That is the undisputed fact. I have yet to see anyone come up with a plausable explaination as to why this situation exist here. NOT 1! Look on your own recruitment board. How many white players do you see there? 0? There are your facts. We recruit guys who can jump and few who can think on the court. That is your fact. We recruit track stars these days and do not worry about the Steve Logans. This was the 1 thing that irritated me about Huggins in his final years, but Cronin has taken it to a new level. That also is a fact. Call me all the names you wish but you cannot hide from the facts. Today should have been a wake up call for some.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Clarification...Amberly is an embarrassment to UC and fans

Yea, the guy is a tool. Not worth any more time.

 

[anbuc88]

The fact is that Cronin has had 1 white player, an eastern europeon, during his tenure here. That is the undisputed fact. I have yet to see anyone come up with a plausable explaination as to why this situation exist here. NOT 1! Look on your own recruitment board. How many white players do you see there? 0? There are your facts. We recruit guys who can jump and few who can think on the court. That is your fact. We recruit track stars these days and do not worry about the Steve Logans. This was the 1 thing that irritated me about Huggins in his final years, but Cronin has taken it to a new level. That also is a fact. Call me all the names you wish but you cannot hide from the facts. Today should have been a wake up call for some.

There is only one explanation that you would be satified with. That Cronin is a racist. You skirt around the issue but that is exactly what you are looking for. He is partial to dark skined people, and is anti white people. He married a darkie, for Gods sake, didn't he. You and your wife brought up this same issue 2 years ago and I took you to task. It's taken you that long to ressurect this garbage, and in doing so have validated what some of us already know. You are a pathetic racist who roots for teams not on the color of the jersey, but the color under the jersey. I commend others on this this thread that have called you out for being the racist that you are. I specifically avoided this thread until now because those that have frequented this site since its inception know our contentious history. But you have once again shown your true colors. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are an embarrasment not only to all UC fans, but to all sports fans.

 

[ralph1950]

As Mick is going to be the UC head coach for at least the next 25 years the Colonel should find a different team to root for.

Bringham Young would be an excellent choice.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

The fact is that Cronin has had 1 white player, an eastern europeon, during his tenure here. That is the undisputed fact. I have yet to see anyone come up with a plausable explaination as to why this situation exist here. NOT 1! Look on your own recruitment board. How many white players do you see there? 0? There are your facts. We recruit guys who can jump and few who can think on the court. That is your fact. We recruit track stars these days and do not worry about the Steve Logans. This was the 1 thing that irritated me about Huggins in his final years, but Cronin has taken it to a new level. That also is a fact. Call me all the names you wish but you cannot hide from the facts. Today should have been a wake up call for some.

I believe the point you are dancing around is that you believe white people are smarter than black people...