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It took sooooo long last year for Cobb to finally start of KJ, does anyone have confidence that Mick will make the required adjustment this year? IIRC it wasn't until LD coached that they made the switch but could be wrong about that. Mick loves Shaq and KJ, just the way it is. Not sure why but he does and it will end up costing him. I just hope he figures it out before it's too late. I hate to say it but they can't afford too many more losses or they may be in jeopardy of missing the tournament.

Davis didn't make the adjustment till way late in the season. I have heard Cronin say it doesn't matter who starts...it's about minutes. ..i disagree now. I used to think it mattered who finished but now I think it matters how much time your best players are on the court at the same time. Not starting one of them only assures that you can't do that for the first 5 minutes which is 5 minutes you will never get back. Who knows who will be in at the end of the game with foul trouble and situations.
 
im not mocking anything. Jacob I get no thrill out of trying to best people on a message board. As someone who has coached,as someone who has raised children who have played major college sports. As someone who trains people and has competed himself it is not practicle to try to set guidelines for playing time especially to apply numbers to it. Also it comes up every game thread with someone stating this guy should have rested more or that guy was gassed. That is not meant to twist the point? If you don't agree with my point do not reply.

Damn dude your acting like a little girl. Vegas fucking gets millions every night guessing scores you don't think player minutes don't come into equation? So it isn't practicle to set depth charts. Coaching your daughters YMCA team off in woods doesn't make a coach.
 
im not mocking anything. Jacob I get no thrill out of trying to best people on a message board. As someone who has coached,as someone who has raised children who have played major college sports. As someone who trains people and has competed himself it is not practicle to try to set guidelines for playing time especially to apply numbers to it. Also it comes up every game thread with someone stating this guy should have rested more or that guy was gassed. That is not meant to twist the point? If you don't agree with my point do not reply.

Waite, his minutes are simply estimates on where he thinks they should go. He isn't saying that player X should always get Y minutes. Not sure why you are having a difficult time with this. Trust me on this, Mick has an idea on the number of minutes he thinks a player should get. He knows how many minutes Troy plays and how many he'd like Troy to have. Obviously it changes depending on situation.
 
Damn dude your acting like a little girl. Vegas fucking gets millions every night guessing scores you don't think player minutes don't come into equation? So it isn't practicle to set depth charts. Coaching your daughters YMCA team off in woods doesn't make a coach.
look at this Jacob's sister came out to help him argue.
 
im not mocking anything. Jacob I get no thrill out of trying to best people on a message board. As someone who has coached,as someone who has raised children who have played major college sports. As someone who trains people and has competed himself it is not practicle to try to set guidelines for playing time especially to apply numbers to it. Also it comes up every game thread with someone stating this guy should have rested more or that guy was gassed. That is not meant to twist the point? If you don't agree with my point do not reply.

Ok. Fair enough. For the record, I have no interest in using the ignore button on you.
 
Flat out NOBODY on team good enough besides Evans to play over 30min game. Their team was the better conditioned and coached team. Stop making all these excuses for the starters who are suspect. We don't have one starter that's guaranteed to start for the other top 25-40 teams in country. Mick, stop trying to change what your players are good at. Troy is SCARED to handle ball under pressure, cobb tries handle AND shoot under pressure too MUCH, Shaq needs to NEVER handle ball outside of 3pt line and needs be at top of zone not in corner where he's never there, Clark needs to wear pink in practice until he play's like MAN he's ENTIRE 28-30 min, Ellis needs come of bench to start games and be told to STOP smoking(most athletic on team but can't finish games above rim)
 
Waite, his minutes are simply estimates on where he thinks they should go. He isn't saying that player X should always get Y minutes. Not sure why you are having a difficult time with this. Trust me on this, Mick has an idea on the number of minutes he thinks a player should get. He knows how many minutes Troy plays and how many he'd like Troy to have. Obviously it changes depending on situation.

Yes...i think most of us understand that minutes are situational but those situations will then create an average amount of minutes played.

However, it is becoming more and more apparent that Jenifer will not be averaging 10 minutes in big games. It's unfortunate that he's not quite ready in that regard...if he was it would be a great thing for the team and Caupains exhaustion levels.
 
Waite, his minutes are simply estimates on where he thinks they should go. He isn't saying that player X should always get Y minutes. Not sure why you are having a difficult time with this. Trust me on this, Mick has an idea on the number of minutes he thinks a player should get. He knows how many minutes Troy plays and how many he'd like Troy to have. Obviously it changes depending on situation.
As a guy who has coached kids for many years. Some very good athletes as well. Debates on playing time have always been a sore subject for me. I understand he wants others to get minutes so they grow as players. Mick understands this as well. Some on here have used this to imply Mick's is not doing his job to develope the kids. Lots of things go into who plays. people on here have no idea of or access to all info needed to make such recommendations. It's tough to coach and keep everyone happy especially when your getting second guessed after the fact nightly.
 
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Flat out NOBODY on team good enough besides Evans to play over 30min game. Their team was the better conditioned and coached team. Stop making all these excuses for the starters who are suspect. We don't have one starter that's guaranteed to start for the other top 25-40 teams in country. Mick, stop trying to change what your players are good at. Troy is SCARED to handle ball under pressure, cobb tries handle AND shoot under pressure too MUCH, Shaq needs to NEVER handle ball outside of 3pt line and needs be at top of zone not in corner where he's never there, Clark needs to wear pink in practice until he play's like MAN he's ENTIRE 28-30 min, Ellis needs come of bench to start games and be told to STOP smoking(most athletic on team but can't finish games above rim)

Rashad Bishop smoked Newports before home games and was fine. The biggest issue at the beginning of the game is they are refusing to attack off the dribble and keep trying to force the ball in the post to Ellis who is a turnover machine.
 
Energy doesn't keep you in games. If it did I'd be playing D1 ball. His rebounding was piss poor, he over helps on defense every single time, and his shot selection is terrible. That 3 pointer he took towards the end of the game was so freaking dumb. He just has no control of himself out there.
Damn lie if energy doesn't keep you in games. That's whole point of energy
 
Rashad Bishop smoked Newports before home games and was fine. The biggest issue at the beginning of the game is they are refusing to attack off the dribble and keep trying to force the ball in the post to Ellis who is a turnover machine.
Only Cobb and Shaq looks to attack off dribble. Pointless because both are below average passers and ball handlers
 
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As a guy who has coached kids for many years. Some very good athletes as well. Debates on playing time have always been a sore subject for me. I understand he wants others to get minutes so they grow as players. Mick understands this as well. Some on here have used this to imply Mick's is not doing his job to develope the kids. Lots of things go into who plays and when that people on here have no idea of or access to is all. It's tough to coach and keep everyone happy.

His job really isn't about keeping everyone happy. It's about winning. I get it, you coached kids for years. I understand how playing time works, I played a D1 team sport (not bball) at UC. Guess what, we had plenty of players who weren't good enough to play, and they didn't. Mick's job is to have the best lineup on the floor. We saw last year how he was too stubborn to change it and it hurt them. We'll see how he does this year. As I've always said about Mick, if there is one thing certain, the starting lineup will always be back out there for the beginning of the second half, regardless of how the game has been played.
 
Rashad Bishop smoked Newports before home games and was fine. The biggest issue at the beginning of the game is they are refusing to attack off the dribble and keep trying to force the ball in the post to Ellis who is a turnover machine.
And bishop was TRASH
 
His job really isn't about keeping everyone happy. It's about winning. I get it, you coached kids for years. I understand how playing time works, I played a D1 team sport (not bball) at UC. Guess what, we had plenty of players who weren't good enough to play, and they didn't. Mick's job is to have the best lineup on the floor. We saw last year how he was too stubborn to change it and it hurt them. We'll see how he does this year. As I've always said about Mick, if there is one thing certain, the starting lineup will always be back out there for the beginning of the second half, regardless of how the game has been played.
Didn't Evans start 2nd half last game?
 
Flat out NOBODY on team good enough besides Evans to play over 30min game. Their team was the better conditioned and coached team. Stop making all these excuses for the starters who are suspect. We don't have one starter that's guaranteed to start for the other top 25-40 teams in country. Mick, stop trying to change what your players are good at. Troy is SCARED to handle ball under pressure, cobb tries handle AND shoot under pressure too MUCH, Shaq needs to NEVER handle ball outside of 3pt line and needs be at top of zone not in corner where he's never there, Clark needs to wear pink in practice until he play's like MAN he's ENTIRE 28-30 min, Ellis needs come of bench to start games and be told to STOP smoking(most athletic on team but can't finish games above rim)

Uhhhh....come on man?
 
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