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BYU is not interested in joining the Big 12. BYU is Notre Dame with principles. Who but BYU would kick their second best basketball player off of the team for having premarital sex when they had a chance to go to the Final 4.
The bolded comment is as moronic as anything that has been posted on here. The decision to leave a conference is well above the level of an AD or an associate AD. Do you really think anyone associated with Mizzou is going to be thought of as a traitor by any other B12 school? How about a Mizzou graduate, will they never be able to get a job at any B12 school as they will be labeled a 'traitor.' C'mon man. Babcock has connections with members of the athletic departments of the other B12 schools, and is likely highly thought of. Any intelligent person would be able to separate the person from the realignment process. Not surprised that you cannot.
Bearcat Jeff:
According to Mike DeCourcy of the Sporting News South Florida is now ahead of UC for a Big 12 invite.
"There is some quiet buzz, though, that the Big 12 might be interested in invading the South to select USF. Adding the Bulls would facilitate recruiting in the rich Florida talent scene and would put the conference into the Tampa/St. Petersburg area.
South Florida has not enjoyed the athletic success of some other Big East teams, but it has produced such NFL players as Jason Pierre-Paul of the New York Giants and it plays in an NFL venue, Raymond James Stadium."
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...surprise-usf-could-be-wild-card#ixzz1bj2N6M1k
According to Mike DeCourcy of the Sporting News South Florida is now ahead of UC for a Big 12 invite.
"There is some quiet buzz, though, that the Big 12 might be interested in invading the South to select USF. Adding the Bulls would facilitate recruiting in the rich Florida talent scene and would put the conference into the Tampa/St. Petersburg area.
South Florida has not enjoyed the athletic success of some other Big East teams, but it has produced such NFL players as Jason Pierre-Paul of the New York Giants and it plays in an NFL venue, Raymond James Stadium."
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...surprise-usf-could-be-wild-card#ixzz1bj2N6M1k
JasonS
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Hearing from sources that UC is 4th on Big 12 wish list. BYU, WVU, and UL are the three in front of UC (not neccessarily in that order). UC needs to hope that they can find a way to keep the Big East together right now.
Edit: This is not surprising to anyone who has been following this but it is the first time I had really heard UC named in this capacity at all.
Edit: This is not surprising to anyone who has been following this but it is the first time I had really heard UC named in this capacity at all.
According to Mike DeCourcy South Florida is now ahead of UC in the Big 12 pecking order.
JasonS
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If you read Mike's article you would know that he didn't give a pecking order but just said he heard that USF is intriguing to the Big 12 because of their market and recruiting.
It appears you write this with some glee. There is no one on here who has a love affair with the B12. We all want UC to remain relevant in the national landscape. If its in the BE, then great. But if the B12 is the league that will allow UC to continue to grow athletically, and keep us relevant, then we should all be pulling for this. It seems that you would rather have them stay in the BE, regardless of the consequences, as its more important for you tell us that you were right, than for UC to succeed. Most of us feel that the BE will cease to become relevant if UL and/or WVU exit, and UConn and/or Rutgers eventually leave. We are worried that the University that we love will be left behind. That is more important to us than whether we are right in our conference realignment prediction.
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Did he ever say that? I couldn't find it in a quick search. Just want to make sure this isn't another one of your made up stories.
What was it again? You claimed UC rejected an invite to the Big 12, when asked to provide a source you said "well there isn't one saying they didn't reject an invite." The fact that people take you seriously anymore is funny.
JasonS
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DeCourcy never said it. Ralph pulled a Ralph and sensationalized his story. DeCourcy said that there were quiet rumors that South Florida could be added to the Big 12 as the 10th school IF the Big 12 wanted to "invade the south." Basically, the thought was that USF would give the Big 12 a nice size market in Tampa and access to Florida recruiting. It would be more of a shot at the SEC for coming into Texas (taking A&M) and taking Missouri than anything else. At no point did DeCourcy ever say that USF was ahead of any other school or that there was a lot of support for the potential move. As with everything, many options for expansion have been discussed should Missouri leave. Those options include BYU, UL, WVU, UC, USF, going to 12 schools, going to 14 schools and even staying at 9 schools for a year or two if need be. USF becomes interesting if the Big 12 launches a television network which has been discussed. Of course, that is when UC becomes more of an option as well with the Cincinnati market. Missouri is still dragging it's feet and the longer it takes, the more likely they are to stay in the Big 12 in my opinion. If they leave and the Big 12 does indeed take USF, that would be the best possible thing that could happen for the Big East. UCF could easily replace USF and with WVU, UC, and UL still in the fold, the basketball and football would still be solid. Add a couple teams and the Big East could survive and even thrive. Still a lot of ifs in play though. The time to act, if you are the Big East, is now!
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Ralph got caught AGAIN completely making something up. Classic
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95% of the time what Ralph says is accurate but people dont like the way he says it.
The people on this board that always says he lies or is wrong are inaccurate.
He comes LL with the John Riek posts and that is lame. Riek was a top 5 player nationally and completely destroying people at the AAU level until he destroyed his knee. Plus, there is nothing wrong with the statement. Your opinion may differ but it is just your opinion. (I can now see LL typing that it is a fact and not opinion blah blah blah)
Get through the BS and read what Ralph says and usually it is accurate.
The point is every day there is a new rumor on what school is going to be the next team in the Big 12, yesterday it was South Florida, therefore, if South Florida is going to be the next team in the Big 12 they are obviously ahead of UC in the pecking order.
Most fans seem to think the grass is greener in the Big 12, it ain't.
UC is going to remain in the Big East, the Big 12 has been rejected by UC at the highest level. UC is expending 100% of its energy on keeping the Big East intact. The Big 12 is not even a thought to UC. The Big East will expand, UC is the major player in Big East expansion.
Most fans seem to think the grass is greener in the Big 12, it ain't.
UC is going to remain in the Big East, the Big 12 has been rejected by UC at the highest level. UC is expending 100% of its energy on keeping the Big East intact. The Big 12 is not even a thought to UC. The Big East will expand, UC is the major player in Big East expansion.
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Ralph, you get no credibility because you make statements like this that have no validity to them. Unless you've had a conversation with Gregory Williams there is no way that you can back up your comments.
Whit Babcock was on Mo Egger's show last night on my way home from work. He spoke about conference realignment and didn't sound like a guy who was committed to the Big East. He said the situation was fluid and that he was going to work with the President to make sure that UC remains relevant on a national scale. He spoke about the things that make UC attractive to a big conference (TV market, top 25 research university, several fortune 500 companies with HQ's in Cincy) but not once did he say that UC was committed to the Big East. Whit also talked about the misinformation that exists in the media and said that when he talked with Mr. Williams he got a lot more information on the Big East but was also able to give Mr. Williams a bunch of info on the Big 12.
Our new AD, in one of his first public appearances, is openly talking about realignment and naming the Big 12 by name. He is referencing conversations that he has had with our President about the Big 12 and let me repeat again, never once did he say that UC is committed to the Big East.
Your comments are so definitive but you have nothing to back them up.
The Big East can't even get anyone to commit to joining the league because the rest of the Universities know how volatile the situation in the league is. UConn wants out, Rutgers wants out, WVU wants out and UC and L'Ville are trying to play the peacemakers but will bolt if they have to as well.
In a few months we'll all know what's going down and you may be right, the Big East may stick together, everything may stabilize, and you may get to tell everyone I told you so. In the meantime, quit stating your opinions as facts, it makes you lose all credibility.
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NY Post says WVU to big 12.
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Even if thats true- its hard to take his word on things when he completely makes things up (he has been caught twice in the past week or two) That is an easy way to lose credibility. If he just made something up that wasn't a big deal that wouldn't be bad...but saying things like "UC rejected a Big 12 offer" in the middle of a conference thread discussing what UC might be doing is just ridiculous and uncalled for. Imagine if everyone just made things up, this board would be useless.
JasonS
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Sporting News is reporting this as well. May be the same source. Not sure.
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I actually think thats a better move for the Big 12. WV is better in both BBall and Football. Big East loses another top Basketball team, though.
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If this is true, the Big East is down to 5 football schools. They would need to add 7 to get to 12.
Boise
Air Force
Navy
UCF
Houston
Temple
Memphis (even with their bad football)
ECU
I would think these would be the top front runners to join the Big East if the Big East can stabilize.
Boise
Air Force
Navy
UCF
Houston
Temple
Memphis (even with their bad football)
ECU
I would think these would be the top front runners to join the Big East if the Big East can stabilize.
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It is a good move for Big XII but I don't see why WVu would want to be apart of that conference right now.
I may need to change my view on the Big East though if WVu does jump. We need to find a way to stay in AQ.
Take away WVu, Pitt, Cuse and Big East still had 8 teams in the tournament.
How crazy is that??