Your ears must not have heard correctly, Mick said he was happy Williams was totally committed to keeping UC in the Big East.
Missouri to the SEC
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And your brain must not have been computing what your ears heard. What Mick thinks means NOTHING in conference realignment. That is the first thing they said before any of his comments.
This is from a poster on the ncabbs cinicinnati site:
Babcock on 1530
Said,
WVU invite was not a surprise to him/UC
If Big 12 is done expanding Big East can reload hope to keep AQ
If Big 12 wants to expand more then of course UC is all ears,
or another conference
Will not stand still on current facility matters, you have to upgrade
Edit:At least UC has people at the top who don't have their head in the sand and aren't morons like someone on this site.
Babcock on 1530
Said,
WVU invite was not a surprise to him/UC
If Big 12 is done expanding Big East can reload hope to keep AQ
If Big 12 wants to expand more then of course UC is all ears,
or another conference
Will not stand still on current facility matters, you have to upgrade
Edit:At least UC has people at the top who don't have their head in the sand and aren't morons like someone on this site.
Yes but President Williams is the decision maker and he is 100% committed to the Big East.
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I listened to the interview on my way home from work and anbuc's recount is accurate.
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I listened to the interview on my way home from work and anbuc's recount is accurate. In the end President Williams will have to do whatever is best for the university as a whole. A depleted BEast is not that option.
All is on track for Big East expansion. Boise, Air Force, Navy, SMU, Houston, UCF, and either Army, Temple, or East Carolina have been/will be invited to join the Big East.
While WVU (if they get to join the Big 12 - it is all up to Missouri) slugs it out in the Big 12 probably never seeing a BCS Bowl game again, UC will be winning Big East Championships and playing in Orange and Sugar Bowls.
While WVU (if they get to join the Big 12 - it is all up to Missouri) slugs it out in the Big 12 probably never seeing a BCS Bowl game again, UC will be winning Big East Championships and playing in Orange and Sugar Bowls.
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The Big East, as it stands now and projects into the future, is going to be a horrible geographical fit for UC (not that I put too much stock into that). Other than L'Ville we no longer have any schools that are what I would consider to be close to us. We are not close to the east coast, we are in the midwest. Now that Pitt and WVU are gone we can't get anywhere other than L'Ville in less than a 10 hour drive.
USF is 916 miles away from UC and UConn 798 miles away. If we actually move forward with the additions of AFU, B St., Houston, and SMU we'd be traveling all over the place for football. Again, I don't put much stock in this. Football teams fly everywhere and travel long distances for out of conference games. ND plays teams from all over the country every year and I don't believe it has an effect on their student athletes.
I think there is a common misconception that exists that says UC doesn't fit in the Big12 footprint. I think we fit just a well into their footprint as we did into the Big East. Especially now that WVU is part of their league and I wouldn't expect that we'd be in the Big12 w/out L'Ville.
As for the students playing the "olympic" sports, they are already driving long distances to play games. I was at a hotel downtown a couple of weeks ago before a wedding. It was about 10am on a Saturday morning and the Villanova soccer team was in the lobby when I walked in getting ready to board their bus. They were ready to spend their entire Saturday (10 hours) riding a bus back to Philly. Point is, these kids are already taking long trips and a move to the Big 12 wouldn't make a huge impact on them.
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That's the problem with many in the UC fan base. They're alright with mediocrity. I want to compete against the best. It makes you better!! It helps recruiting, draws more fans, increases revenue and raises the profile of your university. There is a reason 11 teams from the BEast made the tournament last season in basketball and the mid level finishers in the SEC get invited to bigger bowl games. You don't see that in other leagues. That will be gone in the Big Least.
It is somewhat of a myth that being in a "perceived" better conference helps recruiting or makes you better. How has being in the Big East the last 7 years helped DePaul, South Florida, Providence, Seton Hall, Rutgers in basketball? They have been perennial cellar dwellers. How has being in the WAC or MWC hurt Boise State or TCU in football? How has the Horizon League hurt Butler in basketball? How has the Colonial League hurt George Mason or VCU in basketball? How has the Big 10 helped Northwestern basketball? Northwestern has never been to a NCAA basketball tournament, they have been in the Big 10 for what, 100 years?
It is about what you do, it is not necessarily about what conference you belong to.
It seems WVU to the Big 12 has hit a snag that has caused WVU to cancel today's press conference, apparently the snag is Louisville. It is good that UC has taken the high road and remained committed to the Big East and not joined the backstabbers.
"Big 12 Move Hits Snag
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Update for 8:20 Wednesday:
WVU’s move to the Big 12 has hit a snag.
As of late yesterday afternoon, WVU had received a verbal invitation to the Big 12 and had accepted. Plans were in the works for a news conference Wednesday to make the announcement.
But sources say the process hit a “bump in the road” last night. WVU was apparently notified by the Big 12 that it needed “more information” from WVU and that there would be a vote by the Big 12 Board, perhaps on Monday.
There is speculation that the “bump” was a push by Louisville.
The Dominion Post’s Drew Rubenstein reports that there was a “late push” by the University of Louisville to be considered instead of WVU.
“Sources used terms like ‘volatile’ and ‘internal battle’ to describe the conference realignment with the Big 12,” Rubenstein reported.
Last night, WVU called off preliminary plans for a press conference today.
“Contrary to media reports, there is no press conference scheduled for Wednesday concerning WVU’s athletic conference affiliation. There are no further comments at that time,” the statement said."
"Big 12 Move Hits Snag
Staff
Morgantown
Update for 8:20 Wednesday:
WVU’s move to the Big 12 has hit a snag.
As of late yesterday afternoon, WVU had received a verbal invitation to the Big 12 and had accepted. Plans were in the works for a news conference Wednesday to make the announcement.
But sources say the process hit a “bump in the road” last night. WVU was apparently notified by the Big 12 that it needed “more information” from WVU and that there would be a vote by the Big 12 Board, perhaps on Monday.
There is speculation that the “bump” was a push by Louisville.
The Dominion Post’s Drew Rubenstein reports that there was a “late push” by the University of Louisville to be considered instead of WVU.
“Sources used terms like ‘volatile’ and ‘internal battle’ to describe the conference realignment with the Big 12,” Rubenstein reported.
Last night, WVU called off preliminary plans for a press conference today.
“Contrary to media reports, there is no press conference scheduled for Wednesday concerning WVU’s athletic conference affiliation. There are no further comments at that time,” the statement said."
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Louisville has also tried to roadblock a UC invitation. Another example of talking out of both sides of your mouth by a university president. All this shows is the dog eat dog nature of the Big East in this realignment climate.
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All qoutes by ralph:
UC, UofL, and WVU are not interested in buying a ticket to a ride on the Titanic.
UC and Louisville are committed to keeping the Big East together.
UC , U of L, and WVU will reject any and all invitations to join the Big 12
U of L and UC going to the Big 12 would be a last ditch desperation move by both. It would mean there is no longer a Big East. Both are 100% committed to the Big East and have no desire to go anywhere else
As The Ralph stated all along UC will stay in the Big East. UC and U of L are 100% committed to the Big East. Neither has interest in the Big 12
As I stated earlier the story is Louisville has rejected the Big 12 as have UC and WVU. You believe twitter, I believe the university Presidents.
Well done, Ralph. It appears both WV and U of L are interested in the Big 12...
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Why is Rick Pitino lobbying the Big East if Louisville is going to the Big 12?
"Meanwhile, Louisville men's basketball coach Rick Pitino told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that he is actively lobbying the Big East and its member schools to add Memphis and Temple, regardless of whether the Big East adds Central Florida, Houston or SMU.
Pitino said Wednesday that he has expressed his opinion to Big East commissioner John Marinatto and wants the conference to seriously consider raising its basketball profile during what has been a turbulent time of conference realignment."
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He has no sway in this....PLEASE!
If Pitino told UofL he would resign if they moved from the Big East to the Big 12 it might sway them.
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FALSE! ESPN said the expansion plans have been put on hold until Missouri officially decides. Quit skewing statements to fit your agenda.
From Joe Schad:
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Joe Schad WVU has been notified by the Big 12 that its expansion process is on hold for now
@schadjoe
Joe Schad The Big 12 has Missouri's possible departure and lobbying from Louisville to consider before executing any formal invitation
Jason, saying "putting off" or "putting on hold" is basically the same, just a matter of semantics. Are you an English teacher? (sic) "putting off until tomorrow" "putting on hold until tomorrow".