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[TheLongHaul]

Let me just say this regarding Mick and the program:

1. I like Mick a lot and think he is a fantastic young coach who will continue to grow and will lead UC to great success.

2. The offense this year wasn't good. Not having a big man to throw the ball inside to really hurt. I think Mick thought he was going to get a little more from Mbodj and Justin on the block but it never materialized. It is extremely difficult to run an offense without an inside presence. Defenses pushed out on the guards as a result making it extremely difficult to get open looks. This could be an issue next year. Hopefully Justin bulks up a bit and works on his offensive game. Maybe Strickland will contribute some solid minutes too. I don't completely fault Mick but at the same time I don't exonerate him either.

The ability to run a drive and kick offense took a major hit when Cash went down. Mick even said tonight that Cash couldn't jump stop after the injury and he had said previously that had Cash been a Freshman or Sophomore, he would have been out the rest of the season. I also think JDIII could have really helped getting into the lane with his quickness and kicking the ball out to the shooters.

3. I think the recruiting has been pretty good and is definitely on the up swing. People always want to bash Mick for not landing more "top players" but also fail to realize what he walked in to and more importantly what he was instructed to do. UC was on the brink of NCAA sanctions because of APR thanks to the team that Andy Kennedy was coaching. If Mick didn't land good 4 year student athletes, this program would have been in real trouble. UC had already been docked a scholarship as a result of the APR when Mick arrived. On paper this incoming class looks good and hopefully their best yet.

4. I disagree with the notion that players haven't progressed since Mick has been here. I would argue that SK and Cash have significantly improved offensively. JJ and Cheik have gotten better defensively. I think making blanket statements is the easy way out. But once again, I don't think this completely falls on the coaching staff. The player has to put in the extra work too.

5. In closing, I like the way Mick runs this program. He is genuine and truly loves this university. He is a good ambassador for UC and I hope he stays a long time.

1. I think he is a good coach but far from fantastic.

2. Mick knew who his big men were coming into the season. He apparently overvalued them. But he should have still had a sense as the season went on but he didnt adjust for it. Many teams lack a true low post scorer and they adapt to what they can do. UC had bigs that could run but Mick chose not too play an uptempo style.

3. I think Mick's recruiting has been average and it has shown this year. The APR issue was forever ago. It is a lot easier to rebuild a basketball team than say a football team. He also chose to go the JUCO route initially which right or wrong put him back a couple years.

4. Some players have improved but not by much. Yes JJ improved but really no players should get worse the more they play. I think people mean significantly improve. JJ is going into his senior season and still has no skills on offense and makes the same bone headed plays on both ends of the court that he did as a freshman. I see little improvement with him. SK had improved until this year. Very disappointing year for him. Cash improved but didn't improve much this year. I'll chalk it up to injuries. Parker improved some but not a lot, but I don't think he was that talented to begin with.

5. I agree, I like Mick too and like the way he runs the program. Some things he does drives me nuts but he supports this University and is here for the long term so I think he's worth dealing with some of the things that drives me nuts.

 

[bearcat1]

Umm, no it's not. So a few people talked about it on a show therefore it is nationally known? Okay so maybe it is nationally known by a few people. I travel quite frequently and talk hoops to people all the time and I have never once heard anyone say anything about UC's budget or facilities.

I think Jeff was not talking about the casual, or even hard core, basketball fan. But people in the industry, i.e. sportswriter, coaches, etc. Those who job, not avocation, is college basketball. Those people know the type of facilities, budget, fanbase, etc. that UC has. And given this, how impressed they are with Cronin's rebuilding job.

 

[TheLongHaul]

I think Jeff was not talking about the casual, or even hard core, basketball fan. But people in the industry, i.e. sportswriter, coaches, etc. Those who job, not avocation, is college basketball. Those people know the type of facilities, budget, fanbase, etc. that UC has. And given this, how impressed they are with Cronin's rebuilding job.

They should be impressed with the rebuilding job. I was too. Of course the rebuilding was over a while ago.

And UC isn't some dump to recruit to. It has many advantages as well but a lot on here tend to dismiss those.

 

[bearcat1]

They should be impressed with the rebuilding job. I was too. Of course the rebuilding was over a while ago.

And UC isn't some dump to recruit to. It has many advantages as well but a lot on here tend to dismiss those.

No UC isn't some dump to recruit to. But when compared to the other programs they are competing with, i.e. UL, Syracuse, GT, OSU, UK, IU, MSU, UM, Duke, UNC and others, they are not in the same ballpark. (I know I picked the bluebloods of college basketball, but some of the fan-base thinks we are or should be right up there with these programs). But we would like UC to be competitive yearly with these programs, and vie for a NC or deep run in the NCAA year after year. There are a lot of programs that have similar budgets, and apathetic fan-bases such as our. Hardly any of them have made it to 3 straight NCAA's. That's not saying that we should be satisfied. Just sayin.

 

[bearcat jeff]

No UC isn't some dump to recruit to. But when compared to the other programs they are competing with, i.e. UL, Syracuse, GT, OSU, UK, IU, MSU, UM, Duke, UNC and others, they are not in the same ballpark. (I know I picked the bluebloods of college basketball, but some of the fan-base thinks we are or should be right up there with these programs). But we would like UC to be competitive yearly with these programs, and vie for a NC or deep run in the NCAA year after year. There are a lot of programs that have similar budgets, and apathetic fan-bases such as our. Hardly any of them have made it to 3 straight NCAA's. That's not saying that we should be satisfied. Just sayin.

I think this is what some people don't get. Nobody I know of is satisfied. When the school across town draws more fans than you on a nightly basis, when your budget is one of the lowest in your league, there are going to be limitations and disadvantages. Now it is the job of the AD and coach to find ways to overcome those things, and 3 straight NCAA appearances is one way to do that. UC also need to hire a marketing and pr firm or person. They do a terrible job, especially the past 2 seasons, of marketing the basketball program.

 

[BearcatMick]

I think this is what some people don't get. Nobody I know of is satisfied. When the school across town draws more fans than you on a nightly basis, when your budget is one of the lowest in your league, there are going to be limitations and disadvantages. Now it is the job of the AD and coach to find ways to overcome those things, and 3 straight NCAA appearances is one way to do that. UC also need to hire a marketing and pr firm or person. They do a terrible job, especially the past 2 seasons, of marketing the basketball program.

I wouldn't say they do a horrible job but they HAVE to focus on marketing football. Conference realignment is driven solely by football and unfortunately mick/bball program is playing a distant second fiddle because of it. The school is already struggling in some aspects financially and there just isn't enough money to promote bball like they should

Please do not bring that school across town into this message board. They are trash from the top down

 

[ledon333]

This may not be the correct place to put my first comment but I think we may have to stay a while in this new conf. Therefore I would like to suggest a name. I have only 2 ground rules. The name should not contain an area of the country such as SW, NE etc and there should not be a number related to the number of colleges in the conference. So I propose the name for the new conference as the CSC (College Sports Conference) or maybe the CCSC
(Competitive College Sport Conference).

 

[Cats 01]

Bearcat mick. Or whatever your name is bro, your a joke. I've been reading this board for more than a few seasons and you've always sounded like your name. A joke. Lets be real!!!!! X is obviously the better program right now. You say don't bring up X! Hahaha. They took what was left of the conference we were once in. Except for UConn. You always say how we are superior to them. They have what , 10000 some odd students and we have what 30 plus???? They sell out, we don't. For years one of the only few games we did sell out was them. Our shitty football team of forever till recently literally shit on our hoops team, face it, what we were meant to be. Get of our high horse. They did their homework we didn't.
Believe me I can't stand X. But look a t our last elite eight going on twenty years ago. Yeah I said it twenty years ago. Twenty!!!!!! Look where we went from then till now. Look at X in the same period. You are delusional bro. We are falling apart, wait till Mick leaves. We had our bet two years ever in football and got whopped up on.

Why can't we go back to the days of shitty football, not that's its good now seriously no one will admit that, maybe on Mac standards. We think we are to good to play dayton and miami. Guess who doesn't??? Yep!!!

Give me the good old days of bobby "heart attack " thuggins!!!!lazelle durden, nick v Exel, big "yella boy", k, I can't stand mick. Always crying. Like about how the realignment talk is bs. The minute thee acc comes he will say how it's a no brainier. What a turkey. Give me bob back. Give me the real real bearcats back!!!!!! F U if you don't like it. It's the truth. Losers. Now look where our bcs games got us the whatever 12. Does it even really have 12 division one teams. Lol!!!!!!

 

[JackBauer151]

Bearcat mick. Or whatever your name is bro, your a joke. I've been reading this board for more than a few seasons and you've always sounded like your name. A joke. Lets be real!!!!! X is obviously the better program right now. You say don't bring up X! Hahaha. They took what was left of the conference we were once in. Except for UConn. You always say how we are superior to them. They have what , 10000 some odd students and we have what 30 plus???? They sell out, we don't. For years one of the only few games we did sell out was them. Our shitty football team of forever till recently literally shit on our hoops team, face it, what we were meant to be. Get of our high horse. They did their homework we didn't.
Believe me I can't stand X. But look a t our last elite eight going on twenty years ago. Yeah I said it twenty years ago. Twenty!!!!!! Look where we went from then till now. Look at X in the same period. You are delusional bro. We are falling apart, wait till Mick leaves. We had our bet two years ever in football and got whopped up on.

Why can't we go back to the days of shitty football, not that's its good now seriously no one will admit that, maybe on Mac standards. We think we are to good to play dayton and miami. Guess who doesn't??? Yep!!!

Give me the good old days of bobby "heart attack " thuggins!!!!lazelle durden, nick v Exel, big "yella boy", k, I can't stand mick. Always crying. Like about how the realignment talk is bs. The minute thee acc comes he will say how it's a no brainier. What a turkey. Give me bob back. Give me the real real bearcats back!!!!!! F U if you don't like it. It's the truth. Losers. Now look where our bcs games got us the whatever 12. Does it even really have 12 division one teams. Lol!!!!!!

This person is a grade A douche bag.

 

[Cats 01]

This person is a grade A douche bag.

Yeah maybe. But you know it's the truth troll!!!!! I love this team. Football f'd us up. Along with the female prez!!!!!! Not to mention, if it was raining pussies, you'd be the one to get hit with a d&$k!!!!! Not to mention all of bearcat nation!!!! Lol... J/k....

 

[BearcatMick]

This person is a grade A douche bag.

Agreed. Eggs isn't anywhere near our level.

Their coach is sub par and has run that program into the ground. Fans, players, donations, coaches and ads are fleeing that program. No one likes them.

 

[JackBauer151]

Yeah maybe. But you know it's the truth troll!!!!! I love this team. Football f'd us up. Along with the female prez!!!!!! Not to mention, if it was raining pussies, you'd be the one to get hit with a d&$k!!!!! Not to mention all of bearcat nation!!!! Lol... J/k....

And clearly has a learning disability.

 

[Amberlycolonel]

And clearly has a learning disability.

Glad to see the clamping down on personal attacks is still in effect lol. The one with mental issues is Ralph/Bearcat Mick/etc. How many posters on here create another ID so they can argue with themselves? I mean, come on people lol. The Ralph is brain damaged and makes this forum look foolish.

 

[TheLongHaul]

This person is a grade A douche bag.

well put.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Glad to see the clamping down on personal attacks is still in effect lol. The one with mental issues is Ralph/Bearcat Mick/etc. How many posters on here create another ID so they can argue with themselves? I mean, come on people lol. The Ralph is brain damaged and makes this forum look foolish.

How come you didn't mention Cats 01's personal insults? Oh, that's right, it doesn't fit your agenda.

 

[ME80]

Glad to see the clamping down on personal attacks is still in effect lol. The one with mental issues is Ralph/Bearcat Mick/etc. How many posters on here create another ID so they can argue with themselves? I mean, come on people lol. The Ralph is brain damaged and makes this forum look foolish.

Glad you are petitioning against personal attacks

 

[westsidecat]

east carolina just join in all sports with rumors of tulsa next in line. i don't know if i should laugh or cry. maybe both is fitting..

 

[bearcat jeff]

I seem to remember E. Carolina as a member of the CUSA that some on here defend. The league is what it is guys. We don't have to like it but it is what we have. I would think from the recent chatter people on here would like to return to beating up on lesser league opponents, getting a high seed in the tournament after winning a league title. So please tell me what is the big deal?

 

[bearcat jeff]

Central Florida, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Rutgers, SMU, South Florida, Temple next season. Not too bad.

Central Florida, Cincinnati, UConn, East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa and Navy in '14-'15 so far. I hope they can land somebody decent to add or be gone by this season.

 

[Amberlycolonel]

Central Florida, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Rutgers, SMU, South Florida, Temple next season. Not too bad.

Central Florida, Cincinnati, UConn, East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa and Navy in '14-'15 so far. I hope they can land somebody decent to add or be gone by this season.

I, personally, could care less what conference we are in. I just want the fun back in the arena. The past few years have been less so and the electricity lacks. And it would be nice to see Cronin stop ACTING ( I did not say WAS, Jeff) like a spoiled brat and start embracing the fans more. He is obviously going no where, so he needs to start building a fan base outside of this forum.