Next years team

[Bulldog01]

What are you talking about?

Name me 1 top 100 player in UC history that redshirted in past 20yrs.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Name me 1 top 100 player in UC history that redshirted in past 20yrs.

You are changing the argument.

 

[JackBauer151]

Name me 1 top 100 player in UC history that redshirted in past 20yrs.

Did I ever make the claim that one had?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Your original statement was proven wrong. Just bc it hasnt happened here doesnt mean it cant, or wont happen here, or that it doesnt happen it all.

 

[Bulldog01]

Your original statement was proven wrong. Just bc it hasnt happened here doesnt mean it cant, or wont happen here, or that it doesnt happen it all.

Dude chill out go back and read. I responded to AZBearcat talking about had anyone redshirted yet(sarcasm), he was talking about Clark/Moore. I said top 100 players don't redshirt. Were did y'all get on a UC BOARD that I was talking about any other team.

 

[Bulldog01]

Im done you guys are right. Be men sometimes and agree to disagree.

 

[JackBauer151]

Im done you guys are right. Be men sometimes and agree to disagree.

Well its not a disagreement. It you being factually incorrect about the claim you are making but im happy to move on.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Bulldog, it is easy when reading a board to misnterpret 1 sentence literal statements. We cant always get in your head and see what you are implying or specifically applying your statements to. Feel free to spell it out a little more on the first post (for the dummies like me) and a lot of this might be avoidable.

 

[Bulldog01]

Bulldog, it is easy when reading a board to misnterpret 1 sentence literal statements. We cant always get in your head and see what you are implying or specifically applying your statements to. Feel free to spell it out a little more on the first post (for the dummies like me) and a lot of this might be avoidable.

My bad were not use to getting top 100 players so when I said top 100 players don't redshirt there was no way in hell I was talking about UC. My fault buddy I got you next time.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

Dude chill out go back and read. I responded to AZBearcat talking about had anyone redshirted yet(sarcasm), he was talking about Clark/Moore. I said top 100 players don't redshirt. Were did y'all get on a UC BOARD that I was talking about any other team.

I can't believe I'm joining the discussion as this whole topic has annoyed me but to be honest when you said "top 100 players don't redshirt" I knew your intent and I agreed. While yes we could get technical and find top 100 players that have redshirted I know that wasn't the jist of what you were saying. The rest of the bs that has ensued is just a reaction to you personally. You have to know you antagonize people on here with the way you post. I'm not saying that to call you out but just stating the facts. I usually refrain from joining in such discussions because it's usesless when people get into pissing matches.

This board can be great when we have real, intelligent discussions. We will always have disagreements and that's fine as long as we are civil and can present our opinions in a manner that doesn't demean or put down other people's opinions. With that said when people post they need to expect the same type of respones in return as to what they put out. When someone always posts in an accusatory tone they should expect the same in return. When you call people out you should expect to be called out in return. Everyone's opinion is right for them and more than likely not right for others. The problem I have with some of the posting on here is that people tend to speak their opinions as if they're truths as if no one can have other opinions then get mad when someone does have another opinion and don't want to have a real discussion about it. As for you personally Bulldog you seem passionate about Bearcat basketball and that is great but if you want to be respected on here you have to give respect. Otherwise everything you say is going to be immediately analyzed and refuted and threads will derail. In this case a simple statement like "top 100 players don't redshirt" no one took to heart what you were meaning. Generally no, when you recruit a top player it's not your intent to redshirt them especially on a team of 7 newcomers and only two returning starters neither of which are guaranteed their starting spot back (although I think Shaq will more than likely start). I will say when your response is always to attack those refuting you you're just digging your hole deeper. Again I don't say this to call you out as nothing I'm saying isn't obvious, I really just hate seeing the backlash everytime you post. I wish people if they were that annoyed with you would just choose not to respond rather than get into pages and pages of bs.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Rothstein's take on Sanders:

4. Jermaine Sanders needs to be Cincinnati's next JaQuon Parker: What was Parker when the Bearcats reached the Sweet 16 two years ago? An undersized warrior at power forward. The 6-5 Sanders has been a solid role player his first three years, but next season has an opportunity to be a major piece to Cincinnati's puzzle. Mick Cronin's squad loses its top three players from a 27-win team in Sean Kilpatrick, Justin Jackson and Titus Rubles. Shaquille Thomas is the only returning player who looks like he's a lock to start. The door is open for Sanders to have a memorable senior season if he plays within himself at both ends. Sanders has the strength to play power forward defensively, as did Parker, and can create mismatches on offense with his ability to extend the defense. The New York native made 35 three-point shots (hitting 37.6 of them) and could regularly pose mismatch problems against teams with traditional "4-men" because of the spacing he creates offensively. Sanders averaged 5.7 points in 21.3 minutes last season.

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Basketball nowadays is all about versatility in line ups. If Sanders can take that "Parker-like" step and be able to play sustained minutes at the 4 spot then UC can be VERY versatile. You also have Morman that can slide over and play the 3rd guard spot along with Johnson and Caupain.

The season will be exciting with all the new parts!

 

[david aka the TYZ]

What are the chances the starting line-up is this next year?

Caupain
Guyn
Thomas
Sanders
DeBerry

At least to start the year. I honestly wouldn't be surprised. I personally don't like Sanders at the four, but I don't think Clark or Moore would start there as freshman. I would like to see Ellis come in and be able to start at the four but you never know how he'll look. Having a year in the system at least helps a little even if it was 3 years ago. As far as Guyn at the two, if he's healthy and being a senior and with his defense I could see him getting the nod. He started all last year with a serious injury so obviously Mick has faith in him. I think Caupain makes sense to get the nod at point and putting Guyn in at the two takes the ball out of his hands and frees him up offensively. The more I think about it and with the way Mick defers to upper classmen the more it makes sense.

 

[Bearcatboy]

Rothstein's take on Sanders:

4. Jermaine Sanders needs to be Cincinnati's next JaQuon Parker: What was Parker when the Bearcats reached the Sweet 16 two years ago? An undersized warrior at power forward. The 6-5 Sanders has been a solid role player his first three years, but next season has an opportunity to be a major piece to Cincinnati's puzzle. Mick Cronin's squad loses its top three players from a 27-win team in Sean Kilpatrick, Justin Jackson and Titus Rubles. Shaquille Thomas is the only returning player who looks like he's a lock to start. The door is open for Sanders to have a memorable senior season if he plays within himself at both ends. Sanders has the strength to play power forward defensively, as did Parker, and can create mismatches on offense with his ability to extend the defense. The New York native made 35 three-point shots (hitting 37.6 of them) and could regularly pose mismatch problems against teams with traditional "4-men" because of the spacing he creates offensively. Sanders averaged 5.7 points in 21.3 minutes last season.

LINK
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Basketball nowadays is all about versatility in line ups. If Sanders can take that "Parker-like" step and be able to play sustained minutes at the 4 spot then UC can be VERY versatile. You also have Morman that can slide over and play the 3rd guard spot along with Johnson and Caupain.

The season will be exciting with all the new parts!

Man I sure do like hearing when someone says the same thing I said 2 weeks ago.

Guyn/Caupain
Cobb
Thomas
Sanders
Deberry

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

What are the chances the starting line-up is this next year?

Caupain
Guyn
Thomas
Sanders
DeBerry

At least to start the year. I honestly wouldn't be surprised. I personally don't like Sanders at the four, but I don't think Clark or Moore would start there as freshman. I would like to see Ellis come in and be able to start at the four but you never know how he'll look. Having a year in the system at least helps a little even if it was 3 years ago. As far as Guyn at the two, if he's healthy and being a senior and with his defense I could see him getting the nod. He started all last year with a serious injury so obviously Mick has faith in him. I think Caupain makes sense to get the nod at point and putting Guyn in at the two takes the ball out of his hands and frees him up offensively. The more I think about it and with the way Mick defers to upper classmen the more it makes sense.

The starting line up will not matter much with this team. I think it is more about who do you close with. I could easily see that line up as the crunch time line up offensively. Though Johnson would probably replace Guyn in that scenario.

 

[Robert]

The starting line up will not matter much with this team. I think it is more about who do you close with. I could easily see that line up as the crunch time line up offensively. Though Johnson would probably replace Guyn in that scenario.

I agree. I see Guyn starting and Johnson finishing a lot of the time.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Starting
Guyn
Johnson
Shaq
Sanders
DeBerry/Ellis

Caupain over Guyn at the end.

 

[Bearcat Rob]

Starting
Guyn
Johnson
Shaq
Sanders
DeBerry/Ellis

Caupain over Guyn at the end.

I could see that, but it will be hard for mick to remove a senior from the starting line up mid way thru without completely losing him. it would be better for mick to tell him at the beginning that they need him in a new role and that is a scoring punch off the bench. Mick did not change his starting lineup once last year i believe

 

[Bearcat Rob]

Rothstein's take on Sanders:

4. Jermaine Sanders needs to be Cincinnati's next JaQuon Parker: What was Parker when the Bearcats reached the Sweet 16 two years ago? An undersized warrior at power forward. The 6-5 Sanders has been a solid role player his first three years, but next season has an opportunity to be a major piece to Cincinnati's puzzle. Mick Cronin's squad loses its top three players from a 27-win team in Sean Kilpatrick, Justin Jackson and Titus Rubles. Shaquille Thomas is the only returning player who looks like he's a lock to start. The door is open for Sanders to have a memorable senior season if he plays within himself at both ends. Sanders has the strength to play power forward defensively, as did Parker, and can create mismatches on offense with his ability to extend the defense. The New York native made 35 three-point shots (hitting 37.6 of them) and could regularly pose mismatch problems against teams with traditional "4-men" because of the spacing he creates offensively. Sanders averaged 5.7 points in 21.3 minutes last season.

LINK
------------------

Basketball nowadays is all about versatility in line ups. If Sanders can take that "Parker-like" step and be able to play sustained minutes at the 4 spot then UC can be VERY versatile. You also have Morman that can slide over and play the 3rd guard spot along with Johnson and Caupain.

The season will be exciting with all the new parts!

I agree it will be exciting with the new parts, but i dont necessarily see the sanders parker comparison. Sanders does not show the same scrapiness and fight parker had in his time at uc, also parker didnt just spread the floor he attached the hoop hard. I also view parker as a better athlete. but i get what he is saying sanders has the chance as a senior to have an impactful season and at the four would spread the floor, but his game needs improving

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I could see that, but it will be hard for mick to remove a senior from the starting line up mid way thru without completely losing him. it would be better for mick to tell him at the beginning that they need him in a new role and that is a scoring punch off the bench. Mick did not change his starting lineup once last year i believe

I meant Caupain over Guyn at end of games. Sorry.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I agree it will be exciting with the new parts, but i dont necessarily see the sanders parker comparison. Sanders does not show the same scrapiness and fight parker had in his time at uc, also parker didnt just spread the floor he attached the hoop hard. I also view parker as a better athlete. but i get what he is saying sanders has the chance as a senior to have an impactful season and at the four would spread the floor, but his game needs improving

Will Parker be halping out again this year? Or was he just finishing his degree and moving to play overseas or something?