St Johns Bball

[Thegreatone]

Keep it here. If it goes off this page and into other good threads we will close them or ban people.

For fun I looked at the past couple years of St Johns bball. Yikes.

13-19 two out of the past three years....

The one "good" year they lost in the opening round to Gonzaga by 15.

Before that they were 16-18 and 16-17 with terrible Big East records.

Now I understand why landing one recruit that others backed off from is the highlight of your fanbase.

Have fun....

 

[NYC baller]

You wanted to stop the bickering about recruiting on other threads .. So you start a new thread off by bashing St. John's?? What kind of flaming moderator are you? I'm not posting on this thread and hopefully other posters of both schools don't either. Smh.

 

[DLo3Lo]

Sju fan

Stjohns fan here. Listen, your right about our past years. But in the Lavin era. Lavin took a team of seniors and got to March. Sure we lost in 1st round, but one of our best players DJ Kennedy (now playing for Cavaliers) tore his ACL in BE tourney. That hurt our team and our seeding. Secondly, last year, You all forget our whole team was freshman and Lavin was out with cancer. Obekpa isn't what we are so proud of, he topped off a recruiting class that needed one more big. Jakarr Sampson, top 100 player in 2011 recruiting. Took a year of prep, now putting on the red and white. Jamal Branch. Top 50 player from 2011 Recruiting class. Eligible in December. I could keep going about the JUCO players we got as well. We have the top SG in the conference in D'Angelo Harrisson. (Don't agree with me? Just wait). We are not an NIT team this year we are going dancing and the only reason you started this pathetic post about our past, is because your scared. Red Storm. We coming!

 

[JasonS]

You wanted to stop the bickering about recruiting on other threads .. So you start a new thread off by bashing St. John's?? What kind of flaming moderator are you? I'm not posting on this thread and hopefully other posters of both schools don't either. Smh.

First of all, why is he flaming? Do you have a problem with gay people?

Second, you don't have to post here, you know. I am sure you can find some kind of St. John's board to post on. Well, maybe not. Regardless, this is a UC message board and Thegreatone is giving one thread to talk about St. John's BBall since there are a lot of new St. John's posters that want to make every thread about St. John's. Be happy you have some place to talk about your crappy team.

 

[JasonS]

Stjohns fan here. Listen, your right about our past years. But in the Lavin era. Lavin took a team of seniors and got to March. Sure we lost in 1st round, but one of our best players DJ Kennedy (now playing for Cavaliers) tore his ACL in BE tourney. That hurt our team and our seeding. Secondly, last year, You all forget our whole team was freshman and Lavin was out with cancer. Obekpa isn't what we are so proud of, he topped off a recruiting class that needed one more big. Jakarr Sampson, top 100 player in 2011 recruiting. Took a year of prep, now putting on the red and white. Jamal Branch. Top 50 player from 2011 Recruiting class. Eligible in December. I could keep going about the JUCO players we got as well. We have the top SG in the conference in D'Angelo Harrisson. (Don't agree with me? Just wait). We are not an NIT team this year we are going dancing and the only reason you started this pathetic post about our past, is because your scared. Red Storm. We coming!

St. John's has never crossed the mind of a UC fan until all these St. John's posters started showing up here. We don't concern ourselves with bottom feeders in the Big East. We are concerned with beating good teams like UL, Marquette, Syracuse, Georgetown, etc.

 

[The Met]

First of all, why is he flaming? Do you have a problem with gay people?

Second, you don't have to post here, you know. I am sure you can find some kind of St. John's board to post on. Well, maybe not. Regardless, this is a UC message board and Thegreatone is giving one thread to talk about St. John's BBall since there are a lot of new St. John's posters that want to make every thread about St. John's. Be happy you have some place to talk about your crappy team.

Fine job the the mods on this site. Mighty, mighty fine job!

By the way....

www.redmen.com
www.johnnyjungle.com

 

[JasonS]

Fine job the the mods on this site. Mighty, mighty fine job!

By the way....

www.redmen.com
www.johnnyjungle.com

Then why are you here?

 

[NYC baller]

First of all, why is he flaming? Do you have a problem with gay people?

Second, you don't have to post here, you know. I am sure you can find some kind of St. John's board to post on. Well, maybe not. Regardless, this is a UC message board and Thegreatone is giving one thread to talk about St. John's BBall since there are a lot of new St. John's posters that want to make every thread about St. John's. Be happy you have some place to talk about your crappy team.

This is my last message on this board. Thank you bearcatjeff and all the other nice posters I have interacted with.... Flaming is a term for someone who starts trouble . Trolling if you will. It comes from " flaming the fire". I have nothing against gay people whatsoever .. You on the other hand I do. This thread I'm sure will spiral out of control.. But a certain moderator here chose to start it , instead of being responsible and ending it. Good luck on your season Bearcat fans. Take care.

 

[DLo3Lo]

I'm done trying to tell you that we are on the rise... We will show you. Can't wait to beat you next year. Goodbye bearcat board.... Try not to get in any bar fights or brawls

 

[The Met]

Then why are you here?

Figure it out.

This is also my final post on here. To all of the reasonable and sound posters on this site.... Kudos!

 

[SJUBall]

St. John's has never crossed the mind of a UC fan until all these St. John's posters started showing up here. We don't concern ourselves with bottom feeders in the Big East. We are concerned with beating good teams like UL, Marquette, Syracuse, Georgetown, etc.

I actually think St Johns has a stronger roster than Cincy this year. Cincy lost two of their best players statistically in Yancy Gates and Dion Dixon. If you look at big east stats, I believe only Cashmere Wright and Sean Kilpatrick show up in any leaders categories amongst the Big East players. No others except Justin Jackson in blocked shots.

It tells me that Cincy has a really nice backcourt coming back, but there will be questionsin the frontcourt. I don't think Bearcat fans know what SJU has. SJU's roster compares favorably to the bearcats this season. Don't expect an easy one. Lavin beat the Bearcats with only 6 guys last season. We split games the past 2 seasons and finished ahead of Cincy 2 years ago with Lavin's first team You guys returned the favor later in the year, but we return 5 of those 6 players and add 7 more this year.

SJU isn't rebuilding like last year. We are rebuilt and ready to roll.

 

[Thegreatone]

You wanted to stop the bickering about recruiting on other threads .. So you start a new thread off by bashing St. John's?? What kind of flaming moderator are you? I'm not posting on this thread and hopefully other posters of both schools don't either. Smh.

I am not a typical moderator.

Second, I am tired of all the legit threads being taken over by St Johns talk. This is going to contain all the trash. Talk as much shit as you want here just dont make personal attacks.

Most bearcat fans dont care about St Johns but might enjoy getting into it so they can do it here. If it carries over to bearcat related stuff it is going to be taken off or there will be a ban.

If you are reading this thread, understand what it is, dont think we are allowing st johns fans to take over or flame..

 

[Thegreatone]

I actually think St Johns has a stronger roster than Cincy this year. Cincy lost two of their best players statistically in Yancy Gates and Dion Dixon. If you look at big east stats, I believe only Cashmere Wright and Sean Kilpatrick show up in any leaders categories amongst the Big East players. No others except Justin Jackson in blocked shots.

It tells me that Cincy has a really nice backcourt coming back, but there will be questionsin the frontcourt. I don't think Bearcat fans know what SJU has. SJU's roster compares favorably to the bearcats this season. Don't expect an easy one. Lavin beat the Bearcats with only 6 guys last season. We split games the past 2 seasons and finished ahead of Cincy 2 years ago with Lavin's first team You guys returned the favor later in the year, but we return 5 of those 6 players and add 7 more this year.

SJU isn't rebuilding like last year. We are rebuilt and ready to roll.

Stop reading here. Obvious trolling.

 

[SJUBall]

Keep it here. If it goes off this page and into other good threads we will close them or ban people.

For fun I looked at the past couple years of St Johns bball. Yikes.

13-19 two out of the past three years....

The one "good" year they lost in the opening round to Gonzaga by 15.

Before that they were 16-18 and 16-17 with terrible Big East records.

Now I understand why landing one recruit that others backed off from is the highlight of your fanbase.

Have fun....

SJU has had better recruiting classes than Cronin last 2 years. This is not about one recruit. If you want to compare, go back 2 seasons to when Lavin took over, not before that.

We finished 3rd in the Big East in Lavin's first season. Last year we had to replace 12 scholarship players and had some "bumps" in the road like only 6 guys and Lavin sat the season out with cancer. Things back to business this year. I think SJU can be a top 6 Big East team this year. no pushover.

 

[SJUBall]

Stop reading here. Obvious trolling.

So then you break roster comparo down and tell me why you think Cincy is head and shoulders better? I don't think you know a thing about our roster.

Ps, thanks great stone for starting this thread. I think the purpose was "flame-baiting" which is fine and it means you created the thread for trolls. I think it is good to have some rivalry going and some discussion. A little "bad-blood" is what makes the basketball in this conference great.

 

[Thegreatone]

Perhaps they can. But I have a feeling I will be hearing about how the johnnies are young and just one more year away when the season is halfway done.

 

[anbuc88]

I am not a typical moderator.

Second, I am tired of all the legit threads being taken over by St Johns talk. This is going to contain all the trash. Talk as much shit as you want here just dont make personal attacks.

Most bearcat fans dont care about St Johns but might enjoy getting into it so they can do it here. If it carries over to bearcat related stuff it is going to be taken off or there will be a ban.

If you are reading this thread, understand what it is, dont think we are allowing st johns fans to take over or flame..

That's why this site continues to get worse and worse. Rather than getting rid of idiot SJU posters, or idiot posters from other programs, you decide to devote a thread to them. Brilliant. You are correct that you are not a typical moderator. Most of them have common sense and are not morons.

 

[SJUBall]

Perhaps they can. But I have a feeling I will be hearing about how the johnnies are young and just one more year away when the season is halfway done.

I think SJU certainly is young and a year or so away from greatness ie. final 8 runs, but this year we are deep with a full roster. Definite growng pains, but athletically I don't think there is a team in the conference except Louisville who has this much top to bottom.

I'd still like to read an objective roster comparo from you.

 

[bearcatrunner]

So then you break roster comparo down and tell me why you think Cincy is head and shoulders better? I don't think you know a thing about our roster.

Ps, thanks great stone for starting this thread. I think the purpose was "flame-baiting" which is fine and it means you created the thread for trolls. I think it is good to have some rivalry going and some discussion. A little "bad-blood" is what makes the basketball in this conference great.

Why do people have to tear down one program to feel better about theirs? All I can say about St. Johns is that I am sure they will be better than this year.

 

[Bearcat22]

I actually think St Johns has a stronger roster than Cincy this year. Cincy lost two of their best players statistically in Yancy Gates and Dion Dixon. If you look at big east stats, I believe only Cashmere Wright and Sean Kilpatrick show up in any leaders categories amongst the Big East players. No others except Justin Jackson in blocked shots.

It tells me that Cincy has a really nice backcourt coming back, but there will be questionsin the frontcourt. I don't think Bearcat fans know what SJU has. SJU's roster compares favorably to the bearcats this season. Don't expect an easy one. Lavin beat the Bearcats with only 6 guys last season. We split games the past 2 seasons and finished ahead of Cincy 2 years ago with Lavin's first team You guys returned the favor later in the year, but we return 5 of those 6 players and add 7 more this year.

SJU isn't rebuilding like last year. We are rebuilt and ready to roll.

St. John's could struggle early as the team tries to develop chemistry. But there is a lot of talent. Nobody expects you to be an expert on the Cats, but while we're lucky to have possibly the best SG in the BEAST in Killapatrick and one of the best PG in Cash, we certainly have more then that coming back. Our best recruit a year ago, Shaq Thomas, was a redshirt (NCAA Clearinghouse related), Jackson (who you mentioned) has another year of development under his belt, Mbodj played last season on essentially one good ankle, Gaines can provide a defensive shot block presence and should see more minutes, Sanders (NYC guy) is by all accounts lighting up the summer workouts, Rubbles (one of the best Jucos in the country) will add to the front court, if you watched any of Cats games you saw that Parker is easily one of the toughest hard nosed intangible guys in the NCAA, Guyn already can play D-1 defense and will contribute at both guards positions, this could go on. Yes you have talent, so do we.