2016-2017 Season

[justinhub2003]

Kenpom had us at #40 in offensive efficiency

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Kenpom had us at #40 in offensive efficiency

Still heavily based on his preseason projections. At this time last year we were in the top 10. Give it about 8-10 games before the data is all this season.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

PER Through 4 Games:

Tre Scott 38.8 (11.3 minutes per game)
Jacob Evans 33.2 (32)
Kyle Washington 27.1 (29)
Gary Clark 20.5 (26.8)
Troy Caupain 18.6 (32.3)
Jarron Cumberland 17.5 (14.8)
Justin Jenifer 13.0 (21.3)
Quadri Moore 4.3 (7.3)
Kevin Johnson 1.7 (22)
Nysier Brooks -6.3 (5)

Scott shouldn't be getting DNPs

 

[2bearcatdad]

PER Through 4 Games:

Tre Scott 38.8 (11.3 minutes per game)
Jacob Evans 33.2 (32)
Kyle Washington 27.1 (29)
Gary Clark 20.5 (26.8)
Troy Caupain 18.6 (32.3)
Jarron Cumberland 17.5 (14.8)
Justin Jenifer 13.0 (21.3)
Quadri Moore 4.3 (7.3)
Kevin Johnson 1.7 (22)
Nysier Brooks -6.3 (5)

Scott shouldn't be getting DNPs

Agreed. I don't think that will be an issue moving forward based on his play.

 

[2bearcatdad]

PER Through 4 Games:

Tre Scott 38.8 (11.3 minutes per game)
Jacob Evans 33.2 (32)
Kyle Washington 27.1 (29)
Gary Clark 20.5 (26.8)
Troy Caupain 18.6 (32.3)
Jarron Cumberland 17.5 (14.8)
Justin Jenifer 13.0 (21.3)
Quadri Moore 4.3 (7.3)
Kevin Johnson 1.7 (22)
Nysier Brooks -6.3 (5)

Scott shouldn't be getting DNPs

I'm surprised JJ isn't grading out better than this shows. He's been solid in my opinion.

This definitely tells the tale for KJ. Brutal.

 

[waterhead]

PER Through 4 Games:

Tre Scott 38.8 (11.3 minutes per game)
Jacob Evans 33.2 (32)
Kyle Washington 27.1 (29)
Gary Clark 20.5 (26.8)
Troy Caupain 18.6 (32.3)
Jarron Cumberland 17.5 (14.8)
Justin Jenifer 13.0 (21.3)
Quadri Moore 4.3 (7.3)
Kevin Johnson 1.7 (22)
Nysier Brooks -6.3 (5)

Scott shouldn't be getting DNPs

Good to see Scott where he is. I think Cumberland will progress as we go. It's starting to shape up to be 7 or 8 deep. 8 because we know KJ will continue to get minutes.

 

[waterhead]

PER Through 4 Games:

Tre Scott 38.8 (11.3 minutes per game)
Jacob Evans 33.2 (32)
Kyle Washington 27.1 (29)
Gary Clark 20.5 (26.8)
Troy Caupain 18.6 (32.3)
Jarron Cumberland 17.5 (14.8)
Justin Jenifer 13.0 (21.3)
Quadri Moore 4.3 (7.3)
Kevin Johnson 1.7 (22)
Nysier Brooks -6.3 (5)

Scott shouldn't be getting DNPs

So how is Scott getting to his lofty status? Leaving guys like Tobler out...

Leads the team in FG%. 2nd in rebounds per 40 mins. 2nd in points per 40 mins. Tied for 1st in TO's at zero (with Cumberland) per 40 mins. First in blocks per 40 minutes. 1st in PF's per 40 minutes.

Not a bad way to start the year and earn yourself more time on the court!! Would like to see more assists per 40 minutes since he is known as a great passer as well as more steals. These are the type of minutes we need from our back up big. Well done so far Tre!!

 

[waterhead]

So how is Scott getting to his lofty status? Leaving guys like Tobler out...

Leads the team in FG%. 2nd in rebounds per 40 mins. 2nd in points per 40 mins. Tied for 1st in TO's at zero (with Cumberland) per 40 mins. First in blocks per 40 minutes. 1st in PF's per 40 minutes.

Not a bad way to start the year and earn yourself more time on the court!! Would like to see more assists per 40 minutes since he is known as a great passer as well as more steals. These are the type of minutes we need from our back up big. Well done so far Tre!!

Since Gary gets gassed a lot...I could see Tre starting to eat some of his minutes up when Gary is having trouble getting up and down the court.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I'm surprised JJ isn't grading out better than this shows. He's been solid in my opinion.

This definitely tells the tale for KJ. Brutal.

I was surprised to see that about Jenifer too.

 

[mdchick]

Also would not mind seeing Scott and Gary on the floor together, Gary can guard centers scott I don't think is strong enough yet to guard a typical center. To me it's not contest between him and quadri, still haven't seen Brooks enough yet, but I'm with you guys Scott brings a lot to the table.

 

[rogerOH]

With Scott and Cumberland as our first 2 subs instead of Moore and KJ we are much better.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Good to see Scott where he is. I think Cumberland will progress as we go. It's starting to shape up to be 7 or 8 deep. 8 because we know KJ will continue to get minutes.

Never again can anyone ever say Cronin doesn't play and start guys simply bc they're seniors. There is not one single reason other than that, that Johnson should see the floor...let alone start and play over half the game. It's honestly not even fair to Kevin Johnson anymore. It makes me so mad bc this isn't freaking grade school. It's supposed to be major D1 College Basketball. Some guys just aren't good enough. I don't remember Nyarsuk starting every game. Quadri Moore won't. So why is it any different for Johnson? Why is he allowed to play the way he does for years with zero consequence? Coach demands toughness, but isn't tough enough himself to bench a guy he likes when they're hurting the team in every way when on the floor.

 

[waterhead]

Never again can anyone ever say Cronin doesn't play and start guys simply bc they're seniors. There is not one single reason other than that, that Johnson should see the floor...let alone start and play over half the game. It's honestly not even fair to Kevin Johnson anymore. It makes me so mad bc this isn't freaking grade school. It's supposed to be major D1 College Basketball. Some guys just aren't good enough. I don't remember Nyarsuk starting every game. Quadri Moore won't. So why is it any different for Johnson? Why is he allowed to play the way he does for years with zero consequence? Coach demands toughness, but isn't tough enough himself to bench a guy he likes when they're hurting the team in every way when on the floor.

I don't think it's fair to more effective players either. I just hope it starts to work itself out by mid season. Cumberland still has teaching moments on D and the tool coach uses to teach better D is playing time. Jenifer seems to be playing better D so I would hope at least he can eat some KJ time and then Cumberland later on in the season start to eat more of that time.

I really hope it gets down to around 15 minutes per game (or less) at some point by mid to late season. Cumberland is coachable so I think it's possible.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I don't think it's fair to more effective players either. I just hope it starts to work itself out by mid season. Cumberland still has teaching moments on D and the tool coach uses to teach better D is playing time. Jenifer seems to be playing better D so I would hope at least he can eat some KJ time and then Cumberland later on in the season start to eat more of that time.

I really hope it gets down to around 15 minutes per game (or less) at some point by mid to late season. Cumberland is coachable so I think it's possible.

Now is the time to really prep Cumberland for the grind. We have Samford, Lipscomb, Bowling Green, Texas Southern, Fairleigh Dickinson, and Marshall coming up in the next 8 games. Great chance for him to learn some things through experience.

 

[rogerOH]

Cumberland has the best change of pace and pump fake of any bearcat since Logan

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Cumberland has the best change of pace and pump fake of any bearcat since Logan

Really rare for a FR to be as heady as he is...he doesn't allow himself to get sped up and out of control.

 

[mdchick]

The big difference between Cumberland and kj turnovers, I'm not looking at the stats right now but I'm willing to bet kj's are a lot and Cumberlands are little.

 

[Bearcat513]

The big difference between Cumberland and kj turnovers, I'm not looking at the stats right now but I'm willing to bet kj's are a lot and Cumberlands are little.

Per KenPom, KJ's TOrate is 34.2

Cumberland's is 0.

 

[waterhead]

Now is the time to really prep Cumberland for the grind. We have Samford, Lipscomb, Bowling Green, Texas Southern, Fairleigh Dickinson, and Marshall coming up in the next 8 games. Great chance for him to learn some things through experience.

Agreed 100%

 

[Bearcat513]

Never again can anyone ever say Cronin doesn't play and start guys simply bc they're seniors. There is not one single reason other than that, that Johnson should see the floor...let alone start and play over half the game. It's honestly not even fair to Kevin Johnson anymore. It makes me so mad bc this isn't freaking grade school. It's supposed to be major D1 College Basketball. Some guys just aren't good enough. I don't remember Nyarsuk starting every game. Quadri Moore won't. So why is it any different for Johnson? Why is he allowed to play the way he does for years with zero consequence? Coach demands toughness, but isn't tough enough himself to bench a guy he likes when they're hurting the team in every way when on the floor.

I can only think of one reason KJ is still starting and that is Cronin doesn't trust Jenifer or Cumberland to play starter minutes. Not yet. Which, to some extent, I can understand. But, watching these first four game I can not see how coach can continue to play KJ more. Like you said in a later post it's time to bring Cumberland in after the first media time out and give him minutes with the starting 5 against the lesser competition coming up. We will win these games so why not let Cumberland learn by trial and error? He seems to make the smart play the vast majority of the time so why not let him learn the defense and such in real game scenarios?