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Well they are head coaches....more work = more money...Kenyon won't be a head coach. I expect him involved in the game in some way not a lead role tho...I really don't get what you are arguing...some struggle with retirement cuz they miss they game so they find ways to stay invoked: media, coaching, camps, training sessions ( lebron trained with Olajuwon a few years back), seminars(Ray Lewis does stuff like this) most don't do this for money it's to stay involved in the game

What I'm saying is very simple, and you not understanding the point is mind boggling. Guys with that much money are not going to end up on a college staff making 200K and working 350 days a year. Sure they find ways to stay around the game, and if it requires working a lot they get paid a lot. What they don't do is work a ton for 200K. Simple...
 
New Charlotte 49ers coach Mark Price’s five-year contract will pay him $500,000 per year

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/mens-basketball/article18587273.html#storylink=cpy

All others yes, millions.

In many ways Price would be the exception to the rule coaching in college as an assistant and being a high school head coach before scaling back and moving to the NBA as a consultant and then assistant. Very, very few examples like him. Danny Manning as an assistant at Kansas being another...
 
What I'm saying is very simple, and you not understanding the point is mind boggling. Guys with that much money are not going to end up on a college staff making 200K and working 350 days a year. Sure they find ways to stay around the game, and if it requires working a lot they get paid a lot. What they don't do is work a ton for 200K. Simple...

Guys with that much money that kind off reputation getting paid 200k aren't working close to 350 days a year....if k marts on a staff he's not going from Virginia to florida to New York recruiting or going all over scouting and game planning...he's simply working with the bigs a little and staying involved. His role and responsibility would be small....again never said kmart would be head coach or lead recruiter so no way in the world would he work 350 days a year. Simple...
 
Guys with that much money that kind off reputation getting paid 200k aren't working close to 350 days a year....if k marts on a staff he's not going from Virginia to florida to New York recruiting or going all over scouting and game planning...he's simply working with the bigs a little and staying involved. His role and responsibility would be small....again never said kmart would be head coach or lead recruiter so no way in the world would he work 350 days a year. Simple...

He can't "work with the bigs a little" in an official capacity unless he is one of the three bench assistants and that means 350 days a year going all over the country recruiting and coaching full time. The NCAA doesn't allow it...
 
Guys with that much money that kind off reputation getting paid 200k aren't working close to 350 days a year....if k marts on a staff he's not going from Virginia to florida to New York recruiting or going all over scouting and game planning...he's simply working with the bigs a little and staying involved. His role and responsibility would be small....again never said kmart would be head coach or lead recruiter so no way in the world would he work 350 days a year. Simple...

There are only 3 assistants. They all have to recruit.
 
He can't "work with the bigs a little" in an official capacity unless he is one of the three bench assistants and that means 350 days a year going all over the country recruiting and coaching full time. The NCAA doesn't allow it...

He doesn't have to be an assistant to be involved in the program, he can stop in on open gyms, stop in on practices and training sessions, talk to them before some games, help run camps, do promotions, ect. And if he really wants on the staff or wants an official title in the program i guarantee we find one or create one....there is more to a program than a head coach and his assistants just for an example there's director of basketball operations, director of student athlete development, hell they even named jaquon parker assistant director of student athlete development (he works with the players but isnt one of the three assistants...), if u want more theres the program assistant (Coach Youncofski)...... There is many ways to be involved in the program and work with the players than just the three assistants.................
 
What I'm saying is very simple, and you not understanding the point is mind boggling. Guys with that much money are not going to end up on a college staff making 200K and working 350 days a year. Sure they find ways to stay around the game, and if it requires working a lot they get paid a lot. What they don't do is work a ton for 200K. Simple...
former players do it all time in college and pros
 
Did George Jackson recruit when he was big man coach? Who?

Of course he did. I have no idea who specifically. His ties to the Ohio area were supposed to be strong, which was why he was brought on board. I think that failed pretty miserably, which made Mick rethink that strategy and focus more on the coast, especially the NY/NJ area.
 
Of course he did. I have no idea who specifically. His ties to the Ohio area were supposed to be strong, which was why he was brought on board. I think that failed pretty miserably, which made Mick rethink that strategy and focus more on the coast, especially the NY/NJ area.

G. Jackson recruited:

Nobody in 2010
Jerome Seagers in 2011
Elijah Macon, Devon Scott and Aaron Thomas in 2012 (All from Ohio)

0-4. None of the players signed.

Doesn't look like he "went out" and recruited

https://kentucky.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=2788&Team=12&Sport=2&Year=2012
 
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G. Jackson recruited:

Nobody in 2010
Jerome Seagers in 2011
Elijah Macon, Devon Scott and Aaron Thomas in 2012 (All from Ohio)

0-4. None of the players signed.

Doesn't look like he "went out" and recruited

https://kentucky.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=2788&Team=12&Sport=2&Year=2012

This conversation is pointless. If you don't think he recruited, you're naive. If you don't think all 3 of our assistants right now are recruiting, you have no idea what you're talking about. Over the course of the summer with all of these different events going on, it's imperative your staff split up so you can see as many targets as possible.

This isn't debatable. This is how things work. I'm not even connected like Chad and I know this.
 
He doesn't have to be an assistant to be involved in the program, he can stop in on open gyms, stop in on practices and training sessions, talk to them before some games, help run camps, do promotions, ect. And if he really wants on the staff or wants an official title in the program i guarantee we find one or create one....there is more to a program than a head coach and his assistants just for an example there's director of basketball operations, director of student athlete development, hell they even named jaquon parker assistant director of student athlete development (he works with the players but isnt one of the three assistants...), if u want more theres the program assistant (Coach Youncofski)...... There is many ways to be involved in the program and work with the players than just the three assistants.................

This might be the most uninformed post I've ever replied to.

Just so you can make this stop I'll go point by point.

Yes Kenyon can stop in to practice from time to time. UC can't pay him for it, but he can do that for free if he so desires.

Guys like Mark Berger, JaQuon Parker, Gerg Youncofski and TJ Wolf are critical to the success of the program, but they aren't allowed to even rebound for the players in a practice setting according to NCAA rules. They can chart every phase of practice, but as soon as they step on the floor during practice it is a secondary violation according to the NCAA.

Guys at the start of their career like any of the 4 guys mentioned above are making in the 30-50K range as they try to climb the ladder.

Now we are well bleow the bench assistant pay and down to entry level positions.

Yeah. Kenyon flippin Martin is coming to UC to get guys out of bed and make sure they show up to class for 50K.

Please. STOP.

Thanks...
 
Of course he did. I have no idea who specifically. His ties to the Ohio area were supposed to be strong, which was why he was brought on board. I think that failed pretty miserably, which made Mick rethink that strategy and focus more on the coast, especially the NY/NJ area.

George was the lead on Trey Burke and had it locked up until Darius Morris declared for the draft out of nowhere. He had a lot of personal issues that derailed his time at UC, but landing that one kid would have changed everything and he had everything in position to make it happen...
 
George was the lead on Trey Burke and had it locked up until Darius Morris declared for the draft out of nowhere. He had a lot of personal issues that derailed his time at UC, but landing that one kid would have changed everything and he had everything in position to make it happen...

The other thing no one has mentioned, is that there seems to be an implicit assumption that these people are somewhat one-dimensional, concerned with only basketball. I have no idea, but it's entirely possible that a person in good health, with many years and many dollars might prefer to, I don't know.....travel the world, paint, go on dancing with the stars, learn to play the accordion, collect original muppets, support Doctors Without Borders, get a sex change operation, ride a russian soyuz up to the international space station, climb Mt. Everest, go diving in cenotes in the Yucatan, study at an ashram in India, sit around in underwear all day smoking reefer and eating cheetos...I have no idea, but hanging around a college gym, after doing that and then NBA-ing for years is probably pretty far down the list of life activities...and to assume that's the driving force in someone's life is to denigrate that person's humanity - these athletes are multi-faceted folks, and the successful ones have a myriad of options. (BTW, I'm not trying to be critical of any posters, and I too would love it if a player like Kenyon could have some positive effect on the program, but I think that would have to come from statements of support or personal contacts, not any substantial involvement in the program)
 
Must be a slow news week...lol! It would obviously be great if Kmart would get involved with the program in "some" capacity. Not sure we need to get all worked up about the odds of something theoretical happening. What are the odds one of the greatest BB players of all time would end up courtside for virtually every home game of his former college team?
 
It's not for money some of these guys just love and miss the game. With his kids getting older they will soon be off building there own lives. Look at guys like Steve Kerr, Jason Kidd, Larry bird, jordan, inverson is trying to get an upper exec job, Isaiah Thomas, and many more just love the game and want back in somehow. I'm not saying kmart will join the staff but it wouldn't surprise me if he was back in an organization sometime soon....now tht he will have more free time id love to see him come around more to work with the guys and just be a slight presence, maybe even honored at half time of a game would be really cool

Chad this is my original post u have twisted and changed this post around....my whole point is it wouldn't surprise me too see him involved back in the game in ANY capacity....I'm done responding to your post on this....bottom line like a said earlier players like to get back in the game and as I posted earlier its a lot more frequent for them to rejoin nba organizations.......simply tried to say it wouldn't surprise me if he was back in an organization sometime soon....
 
Must be a slow news week...lol! It would obviously be great if Kmart would get involved with the program in "some" capacity. Not sure we need to get all worked up about the odds of something theoretical happening. What are the odds one of the greatest BB players of all time would end up courtside for virtually every home game of his former college team?
I agree and I'm Not getting worked up over it. If u go back and read it all I'm not trying to say Kenyon will join the staff and wasn't even referring to uc in general. Just said he may rejoin some organization in an attempt to get back in the game not sure what the argument is there
 
Chad this is my original post u have twisted and changed this post around....my whole point is it wouldn't surprise me too see him involved back in the game in ANY capacity....I'm done responding to your post on this....bottom line like a said earlier players like to get back in the game and as I posted earlier its a lot more frequent for them to rejoin nba organizations.......simply tried to say it wouldn't surprise me if he was back in an organization sometime soon....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000293547/article/brett-favre-helps-coach-high-school-to-mississippi-state-title-win

Different sport, but same thing- guys trying to stay around the game they love. It's not always about the money. I get what you were saying. Some members here just have a special arrogance to them and are here for their ego. Who knows what he meant in his Tweet to Prez Ono. He might just be referring to getting them back to a no. 1 ranking like when he was here.
 
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