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If I had a quarter for every time I've thought that and been wrong I'd have about $10.

I think we spend too much time flip flopping around here. We lose a game we should win and suddenly I feel a lot more welcome here and we win a couple games against teams we should beat and suddenly all is right with the world again.

Bottom line is that we're still a bubble team and this year has been a huge disappointment to date. Our head coach is mostly to blame for our struggles and it's going to take a tremendous run to get to the tourney and make it to at least a Sweet 16. Anything less than that is a failure, simply getting there is not an accomplishment.

I couldn't agree more about the Kenyon comments. It's hilarious that Mick's biggest supporters here want to give Kenyon all the credit for the weekend. You're basically confirming that Mick is incapable of coaching by saying Kenyon Martin could come in here for one week and completely turn around our season. The sad thing is I think you're all right........fire Mick immediately and hire Kenyon.

I must've missed the posts where Kenyon was given credit for coaching the team to victory. What I gleaned for the most part was that having the presence of a Bearcat legend going one on one with our current players, encouraging them and giving them advice, gave the players a sense of the program and a jolt of energy, maybe even confidence. I personally think he'd make a helluva big man coach or at least a good assistant a la Jaquon Parker. That doesn't mean that I think he could step right in and draw up plays or run the program day in and day out. It's a long season. Having a former national player of the year and #1 overall draft pick (not to mention someone that these guys actually saw in the league as kids) show up at your practices and games and basically say "we're all part of this family" has to be a big boost and a welcome break from the regular daily grind.

Pursuant to how we react after games...well that's part of being a fan. Support for the program is unwavering on my end but because of that, it's easier to get frustrated because we want these kids to do well so badly. I want Jenifer to get some minutes here and there because I want him to be ready to contribute in a year or so (or even this year) when we really, really need him. It sucks to see Shaq make an NBA level move then gator arm a 2 footer because you can see how incredibly athletic he is. And so on.

I'm not suddenly going to become a Xavier or Kentucky fan if my Alma Mater doesn't make the tournament. My focus is on Cincinnati and my interest in college basketball 2015-2016 essentially ends when our season ends. That's both good and bad.
 
I must've missed the posts where Kenyon was given credit for coaching the team to victory. What I gleaned for the most part was that having the presence of a Bearcat legend going one on one with our current players, encouraging them and giving them advice, gave the players a sense of the program and a jolt of energy, maybe even confidence. I personally think he'd make a helluva big man coach or at least a good assistant a la Jaquon Parker. That doesn't mean that I think he could step right in and draw up plays or run the program day in and day out. It's a long season. Having a former national player of the year and #1 overall draft pick (not to mention someone that these guys actually saw in the league as kids) show up at your practices and games and basically say "we're all part of this family" has to be a big boost and a welcome break from the regular daily grind.

Pursuant to how we react after games...well that's part of being a fan. Support for the program is unwavering on my end but because of that, it's easier to get frustrated because we want these kids to do well so badly. I want Jenifer to get some minutes here and there because I want him to be ready to contribute in a year or so (or even this year) when we really, really need him. It sucks to see Shaq make an NBA level move then gator arm a 2 footer because you can see how incredibly athletic he is. And so on.

I'm not suddenly going to become a Xavier or Kentucky fan if my Alma Mater doesn't make the tournament. My focus is on Cincinnati and my interest in college basketball 2015-2016 essentially ends when our season ends. That's both good and bad.
Nice Post! Been a good last two games. Need to continue our good play. UCONN Thursday is a huge game. Hamilton, Purvis and Gibbs are three very good players. We will need to be sharp on both ends of the floor. Winning the games is what interest me.
 
If I had a quarter for every time I've thought that and been wrong I'd have about $10.

I think we spend too much time flip flopping around here. We lose a game we should win and suddenly I feel a lot more welcome here and we win a couple games against teams we should beat and suddenly all is right with the world again.

Bottom line is that we're still a bubble team and this year has been a huge disappointment to date. Our head coach is mostly to blame for our struggles and it's going to take a tremendous run to get to the tourney and make it to at least a Sweet 16. Anything less than that is a failure, simply getting there is not an accomplishment.

I couldn't agree more about the Kenyon comments. It's hilarious that Mick's biggest supporters here want to give Kenyon all the credit for the weekend. You're basically confirming that Mick is incapable of coaching by saying Kenyon Martin could come in here for one week and completely turn around our season. The sad thing is I think you're all right........fire Mick immediately and hire Kenyon.

Yes, beating yesterday's cupcake, and Memphis (who subsequently lost at home to East Carolina), is pretty insignificant in the big picture. You would have almost thought we beat two Big 12 powers based on a lot of the comments. For me, it's more the way we beat them. This team looks light years better playing fast.

As for the season, yes, anything short of a sweet 16 is a complete failure, and if we don't win the conference or tournament championship, that adds to the disappointment. We are too experienced and talented to do anything less.
 
I must've missed the posts where Kenyon was given credit for coaching the team to victory. What I gleaned for the most part was that having the presence of a Bearcat legend going one on one with our current players, encouraging them and giving them advice, gave the players a sense of the program and a jolt of energy, maybe even confidence. I personally think he'd make a helluva big man coach or at least a good assistant a la Jaquon Parker. That doesn't mean that I think he could step right in and draw up plays or run the program day in and day out. It's a long season. Having a former national player of the year and #1 overall draft pick (not to mention someone that these guys actually saw in the league as kids) show up at your practices and games and basically say "we're all part of this family" has to be a big boost and a welcome break from the regular daily grind.

Pursuant to how we react after games...well that's part of being a fan. Support for the program is unwavering on my end but because of that, it's easier to get frustrated because we want these kids to do well so badly. I want Jenifer to get some minutes here and there because I want him to be ready to contribute in a year or so (or even this year) when we really, really need him. It sucks to see Shaq make an NBA level move then gator arm a 2 footer because you can see how incredibly athletic he is. And so on.

I'm not suddenly going to become a Xavier or Kentucky fan if my Alma Mater doesn't make the tournament. My focus is on Cincinnati and my interest in college basketball 2015-2016 essentially ends when our season ends. That's both good and bad.

I'm not suddenly going to become a fan of another team either, and I'll be stuck supporting a mediocre product again next season.

Spoiler alert for everyone here; this team WILL make the NCAA's as a 9-11 seed and we'll lose in the first weekend. Most people will be pleased with that because aw shucks, we're just little old Cincinnati and we shouldn't expect to compete with those big time programs. We'll hear a bunch of excuses that aren't really relevant to the fact that our HC is a mediocre recruiter and awful in game coach. Come June and July everyone will start posting pictures of our kids in the weight room and we'll start talking about how KJ put on 25 lbs of muscle and this is going to be his breakout year. Mick will give an interview about learning the faults of his ways the season prior and how we're going to be focused on an uptempo game in 2016-17. We'll come out strong against the cupcake opponents and everyone will be talking about Final 4..........then we'll do it all over again and I'll be writing this same post next January.

In the meantime we'll have paid our football and basketball head coaches close to 6 million dollars to be mediocre in the AAC. #hottestcollegeinamerica
 
I'm not suddenly going to become a fan of another team either, and I'll be stuck supporting a mediocre product again next season.

Spoiler alert for everyone here; this team WILL make the NCAA's as a 9-11 seed and we'll lose in the first weekend. Most people will be pleased with that because aw shucks, we're just little old Cincinnati and we shouldn't expect to compete with those big time programs. We'll hear a bunch of excuses that aren't really relevant to the fact that our HC is a mediocre recruiter and awful in game coach. Come June and July everyone will start posting pictures of our kids in the weight room and we'll start talking about how KJ put on 25 lbs of muscle and this is going to be his breakout year. Mick will give an interview about learning the faults of his ways the season prior and how we're going to be focused on an uptempo game in 2016-17. We'll come out strong against the cupcake opponents and everyone will be talking about Final 4..........then we'll do it all over again and I'll be writing this same post next January.

In the meantime we'll have paid our football and basketball head coaches close to 6 million dollars to be mediocre in the AAC. #hottestcollegeinamerica

L0l!! UCB, this team has the talent to do better than the first weekend. I believe that. Maybe we'll invite Kenyon to come along on that first weekend. Regardless, these last two efforts were way more pleasing to the eye and I feel better today than a week ago for whatever that's worth. I think you laid out a very realistic scenario above, but momentum is a funny thing. You never know.
 
L0l!! UCB, this team has the talent to do better than the first weekend. I believe that. Maybe we'll invite Kenyon to come along on that first weekend. Regardless, these last two efforts were way more pleasing to the eye and I feel better today than a week ago for whatever that's worth. I think you laid out a very realistic scenario above, but momentum is a funny thing. You never know.

Gotta take the big effort on the road. Our next 2 road games are very important.
 
I'm at a loss with what to do with Quadri.. am I the only one who truly thinks he won't ever get it? Almost end of Sophomore year and I cringe if I ever see him enter any game at any time.
 
I'm at a loss with what to do with Quadri.. am I the only one who truly thinks he won't ever get it? Almost end of Sophomore year and I cringe if I ever see him enter any game at any time.

we should encourage him to either transfer or accept his place as part of tobler time.
 
I'm not suddenly going to become a fan of another team either, and I'll be stuck supporting a mediocre product again next season.

Spoiler alert for everyone here; this team WILL make the NCAA's as a 9-11 seed and we'll lose in the first weekend. Most people will be pleased with that because aw shucks, we're just little old Cincinnati and we shouldn't expect to compete with those big time programs. We'll hear a bunch of excuses that aren't really relevant to the fact that our HC is a mediocre recruiter and awful in game coach. Come June and July everyone will start posting pictures of our kids in the weight room and we'll start talking about how KJ put on 25 lbs of muscle and this is going to be his breakout year. Mick will give an interview about learning the faults of his ways the season prior and how we're going to be focused on an uptempo game in 2016-17. We'll come out strong against the cupcake opponents and everyone will be talking about Final 4..........then we'll do it all over again and I'll be writing this same post next January.

In the meantime we'll have paid our football and basketball head coaches close to 6 million dollars to be mediocre in the AAC. #hottestcollegeinamerica

If this team makes it to the sweet 16 will you eat some of your words? I think they can.
 
Of course I will have to, I think the team can get there too. I don't have any faith that the coach will lead them there.

For the record, many people were expecting Elite 8 and maybe Final 4 this season, and now we're dropping to sweet 16, so I'm not eating any of my words until Elite 8. :D
 
For the record, many people were expecting Elite 8 and maybe Final 4 this season, and now we're dropping to sweet 16, so I'm not eating any of my words until Elite 8. :D

Me too. A lot depends on the draw of the tournament so in some cases, a sweet 16 could be a success. But I'm not changing my expectations either. Elite 8 or bust. This was supposed to be the year. Win the conference and conference tournament and you set yourself up to have a chance to make a deep run. The talent is still there and it is better to peak late than at the beginning of the season. I still see a run in our future.
 
we should encourage him to either transfer or accept his place as part of tobler time.

I cringe when he gets the ball. It's like he's trying to decide which of 15 spectacular things he's going to do with the ball and by the time he's figured it out, he's either bricked a 23 footer or thrown a horrific pass. I don't question his desire though. He just needs to slow down.
 
I cringe when he gets the ball. It's like he's trying to decide which of 15 spectacular things he's going to do with the ball and by the time he's figured it out, he's either bricked a 23 footer or thrown a horrific pass. I don't question his desire though. He just needs to slow down.
Just seems like he tries to do to much. Really would benefit from letting the game come to him a bit. I really think that it is tough for the kids to come in and not be the star anymore. Hopefully the light will come on.
 
Just seems like he tries to do to much. Really would benefit from letting the game come to him a bit. I really think that it is tough for the kids to come in and not be the star anymore. Hopefully the light will come on.

I'd like to keep Moore around. His attitude has been good this year. He has had a couple decent moments in emergency situations. Since we don't use all of our scholarships, I would like to see our coaches continue to work with him. He could be a decent backup big guy in a couple years.
 
I'd like to keep Moore around. His attitude has been good this year. He has had a couple decent moments in emergency situations. Since we don't use all of our scholarships, I would like to see our coaches continue to work with him. He could be a decent backup big guy in a couple years.

A decent backup in a couple of years when he's a Senior? I honestly view him as a liability, not an asset. Just look at his stats, PER, Win shares, BPM. He's last on the team in all of them.
 
A decent backup in a couple of years when he's a Senior? I honestly view him as a liability, not an asset. Just look at his stats, PER, Win shares, BPM. He's last on the team in all of them.

Yeah I know his stats are bad. I just see him as a program guy.
 
A decent backup in a couple of years when he's a Senior? I honestly view him as a liability, not an asset. Just look at his stats, PER, Win shares, BPM. He's last on the team in all of them.

Not sure about the "liability" thing. I don't understand how an extra big body can be a liability when you only have 11 schollys and when you can sit him on the bench if you want to.

He's already come in very handy two games in a row because of foul trouble to Ellis and DeBerry.

He's not option A or B but sometimes you need option C and in those cases he becomes an asset.
 
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