UC at Memphis

[L-T]

Lol.....ok......my bad. Looking forward then to enjoying him in the NBA next year.

 

[waterhead]

This will happen when you are double teamed and nobody else is willing to shoot (or can shoot NM, X, Pitt). The coach said he has had to beg certain people to shoot that darn ball. You will also turn the ball over more when your coach makes you run the point when you never pretended to be one. SK does not have PG ball skills but they will service just fine at the 2. Is it his fault that the coach has him running point, he's getting double teamed, and we didn't have others picking up the slack?

I think with JJ emerging and other players who are willing to shoot more I would hope we will see a difference in how SK is being used and his efficiency we saw at the beginning of the season.

 

[BDcats]

These negative sk posts need to stop. The whole offense runs through him, he's being face guarded double teamed and yet he's still the vocal point of the offense, he plays good defense, an absolutely everyone benefits from him being on the court, he creates a lot for him and everyone else. He's a great player and on a nightly basis is the best player on the court. Him and jj are turning into a dynamic duo. He'll find his shot just wait, but when it matters most I want him with the ball and him taking the shot over almost anyone else in the country

^^^
This X 100

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

He shares the point guard role and rarely comes out. The other two point guards split their time about evenly and play 12-14 minutes less per game. He should lead the team. The point is, maybe his assist total should be closer to 4 or 5 instead of 2.6.

Anyway, we all agree he is a wonderful player. My biggest issue with him is his excessive 3-pt. shooting when he is not making shots. At least this year he is driving and drawing fouls. As to Waite's question, he definitely shot us out of the New Mexico game....27.8% from the field (5-18) and 14.3% from three (1-7) and only had 2 assists in 36 minutes. In the X game, he didn't shoot good, but got to the line a lot and scored 17 pts. , but again only had 2 assists and also 4 turnovers.

If you think we lost to X and New Mexico because SK shot us out of the games your mistaken. Against X we shot 14 3's. He took 3 of them and made 1. Would you say that is excessive???? We were out rebounded 33-20 I call that excessive. How about you??? X shot 68% from 3 and 56% overall. Do you really think SK 's 3, 3 pointers shot us out of the game? Against NM we were terrible as a team Shot 29%. He took 7 3's and made 1. Bairstow had 24. Kirk had 15. they beat us on the glass. We couldn't defend there inside game. Him having a off night shooting didn't help but he didn't shoot us out of the game. JJ was 3-10, Guyn was 0-6 the only guy who played well was Caupain. Discussing the games with you would be a lot more fun if you would look at the big picture. Of his 18 missed shots how many were the result of getting fouled in the act of shooting. He was 8-8 from FT line.

 

[BDcats]

Lol.....ok......my bad. Looking forward then to enjoying him in the NBA next year.

You really are annoying
Just because we proclaim SK to be a strong player for this team does not equate him to making it in the league. Great job putting words in other people's mouth. Trying enjoying life for a moment. This is a Cats forum and trashing the leader of the team is just plain annoying

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Lol.....ok......my bad. Looking forward then to enjoying him in the NBA next year.

LOL.... you may want to enjoy him in Europe next year. Which is still a very nice accomplishment for the young man.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

This will happen when you are double teamed and nobody else is willing to shoot (or can shoot NM, X, Pitt). The coach said he has had to beg certain people to shoot that darn ball. You will also turn the ball over more when your coach makes you run the point when you never pretended to be one. SK does not have PG ball skills but they will service just fine at the 2. Is it his fault that the coach has him running point, he's getting double teamed, and we didn't have others picking up the slack?

I think with JJ emerging and other players who are willing to shoot more I would hope we will see a difference in how SK is being used and his efficiency we saw at the beginning of the season.

I don't anything negative has been said about SK. Just a good argument about what people think about his game.

I rewatched the Memphis Saturday and was really impressed when there were 3 Freshman on the floor (and no SK/JJ) at the end of the first half and we started the come back and then KJ made a layup to go up 1 at half. So other people are willing to shoot and are able to shoot. Offense is just completely different with SK in there b/c he garners so much attention. I would like coach to pull him off the PG spot early in the halves to save his legs.

 

[Jarad_Hunter]

The suspect D is more of a career observation. He is much better at the end of his career simply because he is a little quicker. There was a time when he wasn't nearly as good. It's not like he is a great shooter that occasionally goes into slumps. Last season was his worst shooting year of his career. He shot 39.8% from the field and 30.8% from 3 pt. I wouldn't even call that average....and he had help around him with Cash and Parker. Yes, great shooters should keep on shooting. He is far from a great shooter and at times he continues to shoot as if he is and he shoots us out of games.

Before Cash's injury, SK was shooting 42.7%. After the injury, he shot 36.7%. Cash shot 27% after that DePaul game, and the whole team was clearly affected by the injury. SK's overall FGP is nothing to be ashamed of for a scoring two-guard. Look at Kemba Walker's college stats. With that said, earlier in the year his shot selection was exceptionally good, compared with recent games.

 

[Bearcat Rob]

If your blaming sk for our two losses u need to leave this site, imagine those games without him.......and he's the reason we win. And I do think he'll make the nba next year and be solid role player in the future...maybe a mid second round pick, but he's got an nba ready body and would be a solid shooting guard, similar to his role on team USA. Sk is a great player, great leader, and is very clutch. He is a top player in the country and if u disagree you are ignorant

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

L-T, Didn't mean to cause a sh##t storm. Discussing player performance is fair game but I just think we should be accurate when we do. You obviously were having a senior moment.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

I am actually laughing at these negative SK posts. He does a great job on D. Yes his handle is suspect. Is mature, leads by example, and always handles he work in a classy fashion. I just don't get it. Yes he does not shot as high a percentage as I would like(I would prefer 100%) but seriously get a grip. With friends like you who needs enemies

This is from Draft Express who have SK as the 32nd pick in the draft.

Defensively, Kilpatrick is already at a detriment due to his physical tools, as he is only 6'4” with an average wingspan, putting him at an immediate disadvantage against NBA caliber wing players. He compounds this by showing poor fundamentals on defense as he is often out of position or closes out poorly when playing off the ball. Against ball screens, he doesn't always put forth the effort necessary to stop the action, which leads to easy opportunities for his opponent.

On the ball, he shows a much better work ethic as he moves his feet well to try to stay in front of the defender. However, he often gets beat off the dribble and tends to give up on the play when his man is by him. Scouts will want to see more effort and discipline from him on this side of the court, especially considering his disadvantages physically.



From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2pk3rAQLb
http://www.draftexpress.com

 

[Patrick Bateman]

If your blaming sk for our two losses u need to leave this site, imagine those games without him.......and he's the reason we win. And I do think he'll make the nba next year and be solid role player in the future...maybe a mid second round pick, but he's got an nba ready body and would be a solid shooting guard, similar to his role on team USA. Sk is a great player, great leader, and is very clutch. He is a top player in the country and if u disagree you are ignorant

These are SK's stats for the World USA games over the summer.

Kilpatrick's overall tournament numbers were 20-64, 31.2%, 12-40, 30% from 3 and 8-9 at the charity stripe. Sean scored 60 points in 8 games, with 16 rebounds, 11 assists, 6 steals and 1 block.

The 8-24 on two pointers has to be the biggest disappointment for SK. He had a couple rough games that sank his 3%, but he was able to build it back to 30%.

 

[L-T]

You really are annoying
Just because we proclaim SK to be a strong player for this team does not equate him to making it in the league. Great job putting words in other people's mouth. Trying enjoying life for a moment. This is a Cats forum and trashing the leader of the team is just plain annoying

Dude, get a grip. Go back and read my earlier posts about SK where I said we should hang a banner for him next to Kenyon's banner. We're having a simple discussion (which I did not start) about SK's skills, or lack thereof. Nobody is trashing him. He has bad games like everyone else does. If you don't know my whole posting history on this forum with regards to SK, then don't come in firing your shots at me about enjoying life and trashing our leader. I hold SK in a very high regard, but the reality is that he is not a perfect basketball player and there's nothing wrong with having a general discussion about a player's skills in a fan forum. If there was, than 80% of the posters on here should be banned for their comments about Gelawn Guyn. I apologize for having an opinion. I've only attended something like 1,300 Bearcat games, so my experience is very limited.

 

[L-T]

This is from Draft Express who have SK as the 32nd pick in the draft.

Defensively, Kilpatrick is already at a detriment due to his physical tools, as he is only 6'4” with an average wingspan, putting him at an immediate disadvantage against NBA caliber wing players. He compounds this by showing poor fundamentals on defense as he is often out of position or closes out poorly when playing off the ball. Against ball screens, he doesn't always put forth the effort necessary to stop the action, which leads to easy opportunities for his opponent.

On the ball, he shows a much better work ethic as he moves his feet well to try to stay in front of the defender. However, he often gets beat off the dribble and tends to give up on the play when his man is by him. Scouts will want to see more effort and discipline from him on this side of the court, especially considering his disadvantages physically.



From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2pk3rAQLb
http://www.draftexpress.com

Thanks PB. Glad my original statement is consistent with what the experts are seeing. I knew it was, but shame on me for saying it anyway.

 

[L-T]

L-T, Didn't mean to cause a sh##t storm. Discussing player performance is fair game but I just think we should be accurate when we do. You obviously were having a senior moment.

Looks like there was more than one senior moment based on PBs post Waite.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Looks like there was more than one senior moment based on PBs post Waite.

If your indicating I was having a senior moment when I said he wasn't suspect as a defender I stand by that. I said he wasn't the best but he isn't the worst either. The scout is projecting how he'll do in the league. You my friend indicate he shot us out of our two losses. That is inaccurate. You did indicate he is worthy of a banner. I agree with you. As stated he is a grest kid. Lets beat Houston tonight and go 2-0 on the road.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

If your indicating I was having a senior moment when I said he wasn't suspect as a defender I stand by that. I said he wasn't the best but he isn't the worst either. The scout is projecting how he'll do in the league. You my friend indicate he shot us out of our two losses. That is inaccurate. You did indicate he is worthy of a banner. I agree with you. As stated he is a grest kid. Lets beat Houston tonight and go 2-0 on the road.

Let's crush UH. Especially for making the football team play on that sorry excuse for a field.

 

[L-T]

If your indicating I was having a senior moment when I said he wasn't suspect as a defender I stand by that. I said he wasn't the best but he isn't the worst either. The scout is projecting how he'll do in the league. You my friend indicate he shot us out of our two losses. That is inaccurate. You did indicate he is worthy of a banner. I agree with you. As stated he is a grest kid. Lets beat Houston tonight and go 2-0 on the road.

....and I stand by both my comments as well. SK is one of my all-time favorites. The scout sees what I see with regards to his defense. I'll bet there are a lot of posts in the archives of this forum where his defense is discussed. I remember it being talked about a lot. But yes, big game tonight. Hoping SK shoots us into a victory on his way to becoming #2 behind the Big O and getting his own banner hung on the wall.

 

[BDcats]

....and I stand by both my comments as well. SK is one of my all-time favorites. The scout sees what I see with regards to his defense. I'll bet there are a lot of posts in the archives of this forum where his defense is discussed. I remember it being talked about a lot. But yes, big game tonight. Hoping SK shoots us into a victory on his way to becoming #2 behind the Big O and getting his own banner hung on the wall.

I won't start a quote fest but you are the one who questioned his bb IQ based on one pass he did not throw. Your history longtimer is what it is. I would think you would be better off letting that go as well as blaming the 2 team losses on the best player on the squad

 

[L-T]

I won't start a quote fest but you are the one who questioned his bb IQ based on one pass he did not throw. Your history longtimer is what it is. I would think you would be better off letting that go as well as blaming the 2 team losses on the best player on the squad

And BDcats, your history is what it is as well. If I knew the Longtimer fellow you refer to, I would comment. If I said anything about SKs Basketball IQ, I would like you to point out that post to me. Unlike many in here, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. But, if you can't find a quote from me where I used "Basketball IQ" in reference to SK, then I expect an apology and an admittance that you made a false accusation. Likewise, if you produce it, I will admit I was wrong as well if you prove me wrong.