UC at Memphis

[BDcats]

And BDcats, your history is what it is as well. If I knew the Longtimer fellow you refer to, I would comment. If I said anything about SKs Basketball IQ, I would like you to point out that post to me. Unlike many in here, I have no problem admitting I was wrong. But, if you can't find a quote from me where I used "Basketball IQ" in reference to SK, then I expect an apology and an admittance that you made a false accusation. Likewise, if you produce it, I will admit I was wrong as well if you prove me wrong.

Well you may want to hold your breathe on that. I will be busy cheering for the Cats to win and for SK to lead the team.

 

[L-T]

Well you may want to hold your breathe on that. I will be busy cheering for the Cats to win and for SK to lead the team.

Thanks, I didn't think you could find it. So, you're just trying to stir up crap in the forum. And, I'll be happy to wait. I'll look forward to your post after the game.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

You realize you are talking about possibly the second all-time leading scorer in this program's history, right? To say his production will be easily replaced is a bit presumptuous, no?

I knew I'd get flack for saying this. I didn't say easily replaced, I said can be replaced. You spread out his shots to other players (an improved KJ, Caupain, Shaq, Sanders even Guyn and the incoming players) and I think you can replace his numbers. Alot of people worried when Vaughn was leaving about replacing his production. Games will still be 40 minutes and we'll still have a 35-second shot clock. Run an offense to get a good shot and it doesn't really matter who is taking them. Players come and go and yet year-in, year-out the numbers stay the same. The only thing SK really has seperated himself statistically is his FT percentage. He does a good job of getting to the line as well, but I think Caupain going forward can shoot as well from the line as him and get to the line as well as him. With all that said I don't mean to diss Kilpatrick, I like him alot. He brings an excitement to the game and is a class act. I just don't think he is the type of player that is irreplacable or that he doesn't have flaws to his game which keep him from being even better.

 

[waterhead]

My problem with this whole SK argument is that people seem to be placing blame on him. The coach is the one that seems to want to focus on getting him as many looks and touches as possible. Look how they run the offense. If there were another person of that caliber I expect he would try the same thing with them.

It's not SK's fault that he gets double teamed...that is to his CREDIT. He is turning the ball over a little more because he is being asked to run the point (which I don't care for). He doesn't have a PG skill set. That also is not his fault...because he is and never was a PG. It's not his fault that some of the other players aren't more assertive or effective when they get the ball.

I would probably like to see him focus on less threes like when he started the season. Keep driving and getting fouls. Bring that 3% up by being a little more picky. I would like to see TC running point and SK playing his more natural game.

Now that JJ has officially arrived part of that huge burden can be taken off. Now it's up to the rest of the team to step up. I think SK can score just as many points with less attempts if all of this happens...and they are starting to step up.

 

[waterhead]

I expect Houston to come at JJ tonight early to try to get him in foul trouble since JL is hurt. Then they will double SK if they are successful. This is their best chance at winning so JJ has to be smart and Cronin has to make sure JJ is ready for it.

 

[CaptDale]

My problem with this whole SK argument is that people seem to be placing blame on him. The coach is the one that seems to want to focus on getting him as many looks and touches as possible. Look how they run the offense. If there were another person of that caliber I expect he would try the same thing with them.

It's not SK's fault that he gets double teamed...that is to his CREDIT. He is turning the ball over a little more because he is being asked to run the point (which I don't care for). He doesn't have a PG skill set. That also is not his fault...because he is and never was a PG. It's not his fault that some of the other players aren't more assertive or effective when they get the ball.

I would probably like to see him focus on less threes like when he started the season. Keep driving and getting fouls. Bring that 3% up by being a little more picky. I would like to see TC running point and SK playing his more natural game.

Now that JJ has officially arrived part of that huge burden can be taken off. Now it's up to the rest of the team to step up. I think SK can score just as many points with less attempts if all of this happens...and they are starting to step up.

The only reason SK is running point is for the "end game" - the FT line. Chances are if he drives and doesn't either a.) travel or b.) get stripped, he will get fouled. And you don't want to foul a high % guy like him. There's a method to this madness. That being said, until we find a playmaker to put at PG, any ball handler can take a shot at it. Caupain looks like the best PG with peripheral vision while GG is the best ball handler. When SK drives and drags his feet for a travel, it makes him look really unskilled. He's got the size and flexibility to finish, but he's so concerned with drawing a foul, he forgets his ball control basics.

 

[Not Guilty]

Just to be clear about SK, because his handle certainly isn't great: He has the third lowest turnover rate on the team behind only Sanders and KJ, neither of whom handle the ball nearly as much as SK.

 

[waterhead]

The only reason SK is running point is for the "end game" - the FT line. Chances are if he drives and doesn't either a.) travel or b.) get stripped, he will get fouled. And you don't want to foul a high % guy like him. There's a method to this madness. That being said, until we find a playmaker to put at PG, any ball handler can take a shot at it. Caupain looks like the best PG with peripheral vision while GG is the best ball handler. When SK drives and drags his feet for a travel, it makes him look really unskilled. He's got the size and flexibility to finish, but he's so concerned with drawing a foul, he forgets his ball control basics.

I get the end of game thing but he has been at point much earlier than necessary...and I don't think it's necessary at all. Caupain is an effective PG who can also knock down clutch FT's at a high rate.

SK is going to command attention whether he has the ball or not. It doesn't have to be at point. If we didn't have TC I would be all for SK running more point.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

The only reason SK is running point is for the "end game" - the FT line. Chances are if he drives and doesn't either a.) travel or b.) get stripped, he will get fouled. And you don't want to foul a high % guy like him. There's a method to this madness. That being said, until we find a playmaker to put at PG, any ball handler can take a shot at it. Caupain looks like the best PG with peripheral vision while GG is the best ball handler. When SK drives and drags his feet for a travel, it makes him look really unskilled. He's got the size and flexibility to finish, but he's so concerned with drawing a foul, he forgets his ball control basics.

GG is not a better ball handler then TC. Sometimes I wonder if we are watching the same team lol

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

The reason he runs some point is because it eliminates the ability of the other Team to deny him the ball. MC has mention this on a post game show. It eliminates the need to set illegal screens and saves him energy by not having to constantly run him off screens.

 

[Shaq_Attack]

GG is not a better ball handler then TC. Sometimes I wonder if we are watching the same team lol

Agreed, he has had more turnovers than assists in his career, not good for a point guard.

 

[waterhead]

The reason he runs some point is because it eliminates the ability of the other Team to deny him the ball. MC has mention this on a post game show. It eliminates the need to set illegal screens and saves him energy by not having to constantly run him off screens.

Well there are two reasons...what you just said and end of game FT's. However, I don't think we need it like we use to. It is not imperative to have the ball in his hands. I would rather get it to him when it's in a more natural flow of the game at this point.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Well there are two reasons...what you just said and end of game FT's. However, I don't think we need it like we use to. It is not imperative to have the ball in his hands. I would rather get it to him when it's in a more natural flow of the game at this point.

i might point out we are 13-2 doing it MC way.

 

[CaptDale]

Agreed, he has had more turnovers than assists in his career, not good for a point guard.

Guess I should have been more specific. Virtually all of GG's turnovers were from passes. He rarely gets stripped (what I was addressing but unfortunately did not state). He has a low, tight dribble technique unlike TC.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Guess I should have been more specific. Virtually all of GG's turnovers were from passes. He rarely gets stripped (what I was addressing but unfortunately did not state). He has a low, tight dribble technique unlike TC.

It's because GG rarely ever does anything with the ball except holds it by the half court circle. Troy attacks the basket 10x more than Guyn.

 

[waterhead]

i might point out we are 13-2 doing it MC way.

That's great. When he plays it my way we will see if we can get to 15-0

 

[waterhead]

That's great. When he plays it my way we will see if we can get to 15-0

The point was there was a point in time when we needed SK to do almost everything and I don't think we need it anymore. We just need SK to be SK and not the point guard IMO...yes I am not the coach.

 

[bearcat jeff]

It's because GG rarely ever does anything with the ball except holds it by the half court circle. Troy attacks the basket 10x more than Guyn.

And therein lies the issue. GG wants to be a jump shooter and doesn't attack offensively. GG has the body and athleticism to attack and simply doesn't. Like Thomas if he'd ever learn to utilize a floater, with his athleticism he'd be formidable.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

The point was there was a point in time when we needed SK to do almost everything and I don't think we need it anymore. We just need SK to be SK and not the point guard IMO...yes I am not the coach.

i think that is exactly what MC is accomplishing.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

And therein lies the issue. GG wants to be a jump shooter and doesn't attack offensively. GG has the body and athleticism to attack and simply doesn't. Like Thomas if he'd ever learn to utilize a floater, with his athleticism he'd be formidable.

jeff unfortunately fo GG I think since day 1 he has out of necessity been forced into the PG role MC also likes his off guards to be able to handle distribution at times. Dion was very good at that role. I think GG is taking one for the team. My opinion is he fits better as a off guard skill wise.