'13 NC C Sidy Djitte

[Gotcha23]

Just ignore him JJ. Gotcha strictly looks at recruiting rankings and nothing else. I had a post about big men in the big east a few weeks ago and the majority of big men were 3 stars ie projects, Marquette had one and they won the league, Cooley at ND was a 3 star, Keita at Syracuse a 3 star. Last night watched Steph Curry light it up, guess what he was a 3 star with no big 6 offers. Honestly 90% of recruits are projects, UK, Kansas, Duke, UNC get top tier talent, the rest are mostly projects.

So gotcha who should we be recruiting that isn't a project? Instead of saying who we shouldn't recruit how about offering who we should.

STOPPPPP. How about not taking big men "just because we can get them". How about getting the best available even if its a PF and play them at the 5 spot. Quit bringing kids in here that can't play. It's getting old quick.

Martin, Max, Hicks, Fortson all PF's

 

[TheLongHaul]

Martin was a center in college. Back then he was about as true of a center as there was in college.

Max, Hicks, and Fortson were all PF's and they played next to a center. What's your point?

 

[JasonS]

Actually I would love to play four guards(two with size) and one tall athletic PF. Mick has struck out on bigs four years in a row. I actually have some faith in Gaines but Mick doesn't seem to agree. You think bringing in the bigs we have the last few years helps us? Out of your minds.

What have you seen from Gaines that makes you have faith. That statement alone cost you any credibility you may have had.

 

[JasonS]

STOPPPPP. How about not taking big men "just because we can get them". How about getting the best available even if its a PF and play them at the 5 spot. Quit bringing kids in here that can't play. It's getting old quick.

Martin, Max, Hicks, Fortson all PF's

So PFs aren't big men?

 

[JumpinJack5]

STOPPPPP. How about not taking big men "just because we can get them". How about getting the best available even if its a PF and play them at the 5 spot. Quit bringing kids in here that can't play. It's getting old quick.

Martin, Max, Hicks, Fortson all PF's

Name as many great true centers in college basketball today that you know of. Compare that number to how many division one teams there are. The likelihood of landing a stud are very slim.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

STOPPPPP. How about not taking big men "just because we can get them". How about getting the best available even if its a PF and play them at the 5 spot. Quit bringing kids in here that can't play. It's getting old quick.

Martin, Max, Hicks, Fortson all PF's

For every Maxiell, Martin or Hicks there is a Rodney Hollman, BJ Grove or a Rod Flowers.

The fact that you have faith in Gaines blows up your agrument. Gaines barely averaged 10 pts in HS and didn't even start on his team. He had surgery on a torn labrum a few weeks ago and already graduated so the chance that he is on the team next year is slim. Besides he has rock hands and horrible footwork.

 

[cincycpaw]

For every Maxiell, Martin or Hicks there is a Rodney Hollman, BJ Grove or a Rod Flowers.

The fact that you have faith in Gaines blows up your agrument. Gaines barely averaged 10 pts in HS and didn't even start on his team. He had surgery on a torn labrum a few weeks ago and already graduated so the chance that he is on the team next year is slim. Besides he has rock hands and horrible footwork.

And yet we gave him a scholarship? That is exhibit A for the poor recruiting of big men.

 

[JackBauer151]

And yet we gave him a scholarship? That is exhibit A for the poor recruiting of big men.

He was given that scholarship 4 years ago when UC had yet to go to a NCAA tournament. You have to take chances in recruiting when you cant get top tier talent. He has crazy athleticism for a guy who is 6"10. I have no problem with Cronin taking a shot on him. It hasnt worked out. Some guys the light turns on, some they dont. Its not poor recruiting. Its the option that was available to Cronin during that phase of the rebuilding process. Dion Dixon was being recruited by hardly anyone and Cronin took a shot on him. It worked out. Cronin in 7 years has brought in 2 five star power forwards. True big men that are well polished are hard to come by. Would we like to see more consistency at the 4 and 5 positions? Hell yea. But so would most programs in America.

 

[JackBauer151]

@JohnMartinCA: 2013 C Sidy Mohamed is now en route to Memphis for his official visit. Down to Memphis, Clemson, and Cincy.

 

[Gotcha23]

For every Maxiell, Martin or Hicks there is a Rodney Hollman, BJ Grove or a Rod Flowers.

The fact that you have faith in Gaines blows up your agrument. Gaines barely averaged 10 pts in HS and didn't even start on his team. He had surgery on a torn labrum a few weeks ago and already graduated so the chance that he is on the team next year is slim. Besides he has rock hands and horrible footwork.

Gaines athleticism is off the charts Bateman. He's the type of guy that needs reps. He should play huge minutes in the ooc schedule and then be judged. I have a strange feeling about this kid. Mick needs to give him a shot because the other bigs we have here are flat out horrible.

Longhaul,
Kmart played the 5 in college but he was not a center. You actually made my point. Take the best available even if they are a PF and put them at the 5 instead of getting kids from the Congo who are tall.

 

[Gotcha23]

Name as many great true centers in college basketball today that you know of. Compare that number to how many division one teams there are. The likelihood of landing a stud are very slim.

JJ im not saying we need to land studs but we need to land better kids then we have after Yancy committed. I don't want to name drop but we all know who I'm referring to.

 

[coachpipe]

Gaines athleticism is off the charts Bateman. He's the type of guy that needs reps. He should play huge minutes in the ooc schedule and then be judged. I have a strange feeling about this kid. Mick needs to give him a shot because the other bigs we have here are flat out horrible.

Longhaul,
Kmart played the 5 in college but he was not a center. You actually made my point. Take the best available even if they are a PF and put them at the 5 instead of getting kids from the Congo who are tall.

Gaines might be athletic and a physical freak, but the guy is uncoordinated. You cant be uncoordinated and play basketball. Djitte has offers from some good schools. Memphis has always recruited good players and Clemson is in, which next year, arguably the best basketball conference. I couldnt even find another school that gave gaines an offer..but thats Scouthoops for ya. So Id like to believe even as a freshmen Djitte would be better than Gaines is right now. Gaines cant catch the ball and has zero post moves. If your 6 10 and as athletic as Gaines is, you should not miss as many alley oops as he did. And for not getting a lot of playing time, he sure missed a lot of those opportunities. He is just uncoordinated, thats really all there is too it. I somewhat question his basketball smarts as well.

But I know its just a video, but Id argue Djitte looks just as athletic as gaines, but looks like he has a MUCH better touch and softer hands. The guy looks as if he can dribble and plays good D. If you want a PF playing center like you say you do, then this guy right here may be that guy

 

[TheLongHaul]

Gaines athleticism is off the charts Bateman. He's the type of guy that needs reps. He should play huge minutes in the ooc schedule and then be judged. I have a strange feeling about this kid. Mick needs to give him a shot because the other bigs we have here are flat out horrible.

Longhaul,
Kmart played the 5 in college but he was not a center. You actually made my point. Take the best available even if they are a PF and put them at the 5 instead of getting kids from the Congo who are tall.

Why wasn't he a center?

Gaines has athleticism but bad footwork and terrible hands. Anyone that knows a lick about basketball knows those are two of the most important attributes for a big man.

 

[Gotcha23]

Gaines might be athletic and a physical freak, but the guy is uncoordinated. You cant be uncoordinated and play basketball. Djitte has offers from some good schools. Memphis has always recruited good players and Clemson is in, which next year, arguably the best basketball conference. I couldnt even find another school that gave gaines an offer..but thats Scouthoops for ya. So Id like to believe even as a freshmen Djitte would be better than Gaines is right now. Gaines cant catch the ball and has zero post moves. If your 6 10 and as athletic as Gaines is, you should not miss as many alley oops as he did. And for not getting a lot of playing time, he sure missed a lot of those opportunities. He is just uncoordinated, thats really all there is too it. I somewhat question his basketball smarts as well.

But I know its just a video, but Id argue Djitte looks just as athletic as gaines, but looks like he has a MUCH better touch and softer hands. The guy looks as if he can dribble and plays good D. If you want a PF playing center like you say you do, then this guy right here may be that guy

Yea i understand the Gaines skepticism, I do. I feel like he needs major mintues to be truly evaluated. NOT ALL KIDS CAN MATURE without in game development. Everywhere I've read Djitte has been offered by only Clemson and Auburn. I could be wrong I just don't want another four year project that doesn't help us. Of course I would give him a chance though. There's a reason im not a head coach.

 

[Gotcha23]

Why wasn't he a center?

Gaines has athleticism but bad footwork and terrible hands. Anyone that knows a lick about basketball knows those are two of the most important attributes for a big man.

Kmart was 6'9, thin, and athletic. He never had the body of an NBA center. He could play the 5 in college, but not in the future.

Look, I have no evidence that Gaines will be a great big but I see something in his game that could really improve. Potential is what i see. IMO, he needs a chance to prove himself. I thought he should have got that chance early last year honestly.

 

[coachpipe]

Yea i understand the Gaines skepticism, I do. I feel like he needs major mintues to be truly evaluated. NOT ALL KIDS CAN MATURE without in game development. Everywhere I've read Djitte has been offered by only Clemson and Auburn. I could be wrong I just don't want another four year project that doesn't help us. Of course I would give him a chance though. There's a reason im not a head coach.

He is on a visit to Memphis right now...But either way. Auburn and Clemson are pretty good offers. Im curious to who Gaines had offers from since I cant find anything. But I do think that this guy shows a lot more promise than previous bigs...even gaines. And I also believe that if we Mbodj had 4 years here he would have been a lot better rather than just 2. Most JUCO players when the go D1, their first year they seem to struggle with the change. Mbodj is a different story. He was injured and over weight last year, so in a way, this was his first REAL experience in division 1 to prove himself. Not all that fair if you ask me. Thats why I hate signing JUCO players in the first place. You only have them for 2 years and the first year they are most likely going to struggle

You are comparing this guy to all the JUCO players UC has gotten. This guy isnt going JUCO or division 2 his first 2 years of school. He is going D 1 and has multiple offers.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Yea i understand the Gaines skepticism, I do. I feel like he needs major mintues to be truly evaluated. NOT ALL KIDS CAN MATURE without in game development. Everywhere I've read Djitte has been offered by only Clemson and Auburn. I could be wrong I just don't want another four year project that doesn't help us. Of course I would give him a chance though. There's a reason im not a head coach.

Guys earn minutes in practice and taking advantage of game minutes. You don't force feed minutes to players whos attitude and skill set do not warrant it.Gaines is not a D1 post player and never will be. This was a swing and miss by Mick and staff. Next man up!

 

[TheLongHaul]

Kmart was 6'9, thin, and athletic. He never had the body of an NBA center. He could play the 5 in college, but not in the future.

Look, I have no evidence that Gaines will be a great big but I see something in his game that could really improve. Potential is what i see. IMO, he needs a chance to prove himself. I thought he should have got that chance early last year honestly.

I never said he was a center in the NBA. My question is what didn't make him a center in college? A 6'9" thin (though he was not JJ thin, he was still damn strong) and athletic was a center back in '99.

 

[Gotcha23]

He is on a visit to Memphis right now...But either way. Auburn and Clemson are pretty good offers. Im curious to who Gaines had offers from since I cant find anything. But I do think that this guy shows a lot more promise than previous bigs...even gaines. And I also believe that if we Mbodj had 4 years here he would have been a lot better rather than just 2. Most JUCO players when the go D1, their first year they seem to struggle with the change. Mbodj is a different story. He was injured and over weight last year, so in a way, this was his first REAL experience in division 1 to prove himself. Not all that fair if you ask me. Thats why I hate signing JUCO players in the first place. You only have them for 2 years and the first year they are most likely going to struggle

You are comparing this guy to all the JUCO players UC has gotten. This guy isnt going JUCO or division 2 his first 2 years of school. He is going D 1 and has multiple offers.

I agree with everything you said about comparing JUCO's to 4 year guys. I don't agree however with "Auburn and Clemson are pretty good offers".

 

[Gotcha23]

I never said he was a center in the NBA. My question is what didn't make him a center in college? A 6'9" thin (though he was not JJ thin, he was still damn strong) and athletic was a center back in '99.

I could see how he was viewed as a Center in college but I saw him as a true Power Forward. I was probably projecting him in the pro's when I say that. Personally, I think Mick should recruit athletic PF's and play them at the 5 because centers in college are not real impressive IMO.