How do we copy X - free throws

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Just feels to me that we're getting a little spoiled as fans and entering that "Nothing is ever good enough" territory. Xavier has been good at FTs so far. Good for them. As I said earlier, we have made more than our opponents have attempted. That is incredibly hard to do, and it's something that was a stated goal by some of our fans. And now that it's been done, we've moved the goalpost. Well, yeah we may be making more than our opponents attempt...BUT...
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Just feels to me that we're getting a little spoiled as fans and entering that "Nothing is ever good enough" territory. Xavier has been good at FTs so far. Good for them. As I said earlier, we have made more than our opponents have attempted. That is incredibly hard to do, and it's something that was a stated goal by some of our fans. And now that it's been done, we've moved the goalpost. Well, yeah we may be making more than our opponents attempt...BUT...
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The goal posts move constantly no matter what gets fixed or how good we get. It's crazy. I remember when the third highest scorer on our team averaged under 8 pts. Titus Rubles. Great defender though.

Yikes. I'm having more fun now thinking we have a chance.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
They came up with a really good idea on The Skinny Podcast. They say maybe try shooting them in practice when you're tired??? That way it simulates the way you'd be in a game. Groundbreaking stuff really. I can't figure out why coaches aren't following this advice. But maybe Rick talked to Mack and let him in on the secret? Who knows? But it seems to be working...and apparently we're stuck shooting them all in practice when not tired at all...
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This has been done by high school teams since peach baskets. All teams do it
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Just feels to me that we're getting a little spoiled as fans and entering that "Nothing is ever good enough" territory. Xavier has been good at FTs so far. Good for them. As I said earlier, we have made more than our opponents have attempted. That is incredibly hard to do, and it's something that was a stated goal by some of our fans. And now that it's been done, we've moved the goalpost. Well, yeah we may be making more than our opponents attempt...BUT...
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Moving the goal posts is exactly what you want to do...it’s called improvement - 1st, better than a .500 record, then the nit, then NCAA, then 2nd weekend & so on. When you’re good, you can afford to get picky...you have to focus on the little things that make you really good...what used to be good enough isn’t anymore- you think Kentucky is happy just to make the tourney? You have to get to a level, then aim higher. I want my brain surgeon to get it right 100% of the time, not 80%
 
I personally don't give two you-know-whats about Xavier's free throw percentage. But here are the team free throw percentages in the Mick Cronin era, starting from this season and ending with his first: .689, .686, .705, .670, .708, .647, .644, .668, .638, .657, .665. That's terrible, and it's inexcusable.
 
juckerrules said:
Moving the goal posts is exactly what you want to do...it’s called improvement - 1st, better than a .500 record, then the nit, then NCAA, then 2nd weekend & so on. When you’re good, you can afford to get picky...you have to focus on the little things that make you really good...what used to be good enough isn’t anymore- you think Kentucky is happy just to make the tourney? You have to get to a level, then aim higher. I want my brain surgeon to get it right 100% of the time, not 80%
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I get where you're coming from. I really do. And I don't think you're wrong. And I don't mean to excuse poor free throw shooting % wise.

I'm just trying hard to enjoy this season as much as possible. Before we know it, it'll be over. And Clark and Washington will be done. It'd be a shame if we end up having the year we all hope for and you go back and read these threads and it's a bunch of griping about everything. I want to enjoy it along the way. That doesn't mean I'm okay with under performing, or just making the tournament, or anything like that. It just feels like every game is our fans just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Maybe as Cincinnati sports fans, we've all just become so conditioned to that. But I have enough confidence in this team that I'll roll with whatever happens (to a point) in the regular season bc I believe in the ceiling of our group. I mean, if we win Sunday, that'll put us at 42-8 over the past 2 seasons. That's pretty incredible. That's less losses in 50 games than we had in 11 of the previous 12 seasons (SK's SR year we lost 7). It's ok to take a look around every once in a while and appreciate where we are. We should be pretty damn proud of this basketball program.
 
Free Throw shooting is one of many things we should be looking to Xavier for help with. How about we start with running an offesne where our guards/forwards actually GET to the free throw line? Lets start there...
 
Unless X is having this kind of success every year from the line I really would have a difficult time emulating them over a 14 game start to the season. My suggestion would be. Find the team who routinely shoots FT's well over the last 10 years and determine what the are doing to achieve those results.
 
CHEER CINCY said:
Free Throw shooting is one of many things we should be looking to Xavier for help with. How about we start with running an offesne where our guards/forwards actually GET to the free throw line? Lets start there...
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Again, we have made more than our opponents have attempted. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative?
 
jacobkdoyle said:
Again, we have made more than our opponents have attempted. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative?
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So what?! When you play the 319th hardest schedule in the country, isn’t that a likely outcome? The inferior team is forced to hack the superior team? Id be curious to see how our guards stack up in terms of ft attempts......
 
CHEER CINCY said:
So what?! When you play the 319th hardest schedule in the country, isn’t that a likely outcome? The inferior team is forced to hack the superior team? Id be curious to see how our guards stack up in terms of ft attempts......
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Ok then go look it up.
 
CHEER CINCY said:
So what?! When you play the 319th hardest schedule in the country, isn’t that a likely outcome? The inferior team is forced to hack the superior team? Id be curious to see how our guards stack up in terms of ft attempts......
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Why just guards now? You literally mentioned our forwards for this 1 post ago.
 
CHEER CINCY said:
So what?! When you play the 319th hardest schedule in the country, isn’t that a likely outcome? The inferior team is forced to hack the superior team? Id be curious to see how our guards stack up in terms of ft attempts......
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And yeah it's the likely outcome...if you're good.
 
perfect example is today's X game...outscored from the field by Depaul....from the line, X = 19-25, 76%
Depaul=12-20, 60%

forget that X had more attempts...reverse the percentages & Depaul wins 75-73
 
juckerrules said:
perfect example is today's X game...outscored from the field by Depaul....from the line, X = 19-25, 76%
Depaul=12-20, 60%

forget that X had more attempts...reverse the percentages & Depaul wins 75-73
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Who cares? Why is this on a UC board?
 
Because we want to refine our free throw shooting to win more games - it's something that can be done with technique and focused practice...it will win (or lose) games - I use X as an example of what we aspire towards (in terms of free throws) - somehow they seem more relevant than Liberty, Central Michigan or William & Mary, all of whom shoot the crap out of free throws but don't have the talent for that to make a difference...We do, & I want to see us have an edge in an area where the opponent can do absolutely nothing to stop us.
 
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