Agreed.
The Official Bob Huggins Thread
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Agreed.
MDW79
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Yes, but there were rumors that University was considering dropping football at one point. One could argue, if it was not for immense success of basketball, floating the funds to carry that program may have ceased in the mid 90's. In reality basketball provided probably almost of our revenue. I could be mistaken, but can't think of another athletic team that would have even turned a profit at that time. So, then you can say the facilities would have suffered. (Some of those surely played a part in our appeal to the BE) I know we had a state of the art weight room, to go along with an amazing men's locker room. We also had the big contract with Nike.
Also, there were plenty of football teams that had equal potential to ours when the decision was made. For someone to say, that the work of Huggs had nothing to do with it is just simply untrue.
And to give the credit to Nancy, well I'm still laughing about that one.
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TheLivingLegend
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Bob Huggins will be on Lances show tonight. Tune in and learn from coaching greatness.
TheLivingLegend
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Completely agree. Like i have stated, I fully support Mick. I will be at the game sat (just like every other home game this year). I will cheer for Bob entrance. Then I will proceed to watch UC win. Im not completely sold on Mick, but he undoubtedly has my full support. What I will not support is clowns bashing the person who single handedly put UC back on the map and became a coaching great.
TheLivingLegend
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Without Huggins, he said, “We would not be in the Big East. Our football team would have never had the wins they had because they would have never been able to recruit to a BCS conference" - Mick Cronin. Yawn Ralphy, yawn.
MDW79
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From the man himself...Owned.
Ralph has gone rather oddly quiet since that statement.
To think the Football program didnt have any impact on getting to the Big East is dumb. Both got the Cats in the Big East--I think UC just happened to be the perfect match as they had a decent football team which theBig East was looking for and it added another good Basketball team.
Lobot
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Two small things.
1) The main reason why Bob never got of the second round was that he only had one day to prepare his team for a 2nd opponent. He was never good at short turn around games during the regular season either.
2) I can't believe BCT has a 13 page thread consisting of about 9 posters. Not criticizing. Just an observation.
1) The main reason why Bob never got of the second round was that he only had one day to prepare his team for a 2nd opponent. He was never good at short turn around games during the regular season either.
2) I can't believe BCT has a 13 page thread consisting of about 9 posters. Not criticizing. Just an observation.
BearcatAlum1
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That's what makes BCT good.
The first point you bring up is interesting. Early on in Huggins tenure, it was thought that UC made it to the Final 4 and Elite 8 because 2 days wasn't enough to prepare for the pressing style the Bearcats played. After he obtained initial success with the Van Exel group, he started to recruit a different type of athlete, not the quick, fast, pressing one, but the strong weight lifting type. IMO, UC's best teams under Huggs were the first few, because of their style of play. The Missouri teams of Mike Anderson remind me of those early teams.
On the second point, as you know, you just need a few knowledgeable Bearcat fans to have an interesting discussion. The more people that join in, the more tangents the thread takes, and the more likely it will be derailed. That seems to be the problem at BCN and also why this is a more pleasant site to visit.
Wrong, Mick is simply making one of those build up the other team before the game statements.
The reality is, and it has been well documented in reported statements by Commissioner Mike Tranghese, that UC got in the Big East because of Nancy Zimpher and having a football team. If UC did not have a football team UC would not be in the Big East, it really is that simple. Do you think South Florida got in the Big East because of their great basketball tradition?
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I agree with Mick for the most part. Huggins did make us a more attractive school for BE consideration but I do think we would have been pulled in eventually at a latter date without him. Also, I love this site. The few who post regularly are knowledgeable fans and give wonderful insight into many issues without, for the most part, personal attacks and insults. I have watched post in the BCN site and it is very harsh and brutal. Banning members is common place and it seems more of a pro Cronin type site than anything else. Not that I am bashing our coach. Just like the thought of a site where one can air it out without fear of being banned for your opinion.
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These are the words of commissioner Mike Tranghese as to UC getting in the Big East, football and Nancy got UC in the Big East:
Q. How much of a role did the success of the UC basketball program play in making the school attractive to the Big East?
A. We were very good in basketball before we took these five programs in. In basketball, we were fine. We wanted to go places that made sense. Coming to a large metropolitan area was important. I looked at the basketball program and said, "We don't need to talk about Cincinnati's basketball. We know what it's been. It's got an incredible tradition."
We talked about could they long-term, by being affiliated with a BCS league, have a chance to be a good football program? Everybody I talked to told me that they had a recruiting base here that they hadn't been able to draw upon.
They thought that with the right coach, the right approach and in our league that it would be successful. When we came together, it was just a matter of our presidents and (UC president) Nancy Zimpher being comfortable. We wanted to see where she was coming from. Ten minutes into the meeting, I could tell that the interaction between Nancy and the presidents was positive.Q. So was it actually the football program's potential that was the deciding factor?
A. These were the factors and they were all important: It was the basketball program, it was the potential in football, it was being in this market, and then I think our presidents had to be comfortable with Nancy, and she did a fabulous job of articulating why Cincinnati wanted to be in the league and the kind of things she was committed to doing.
Q. You know the situation with men's basketball coach Bob Huggins' contract and the controversy it has caused here. Is that a concern for the league?
A. I just don't deal in that world of whether coaches come or go or stay. It's just not my business. This is an area of institutional autonomy.
Q. How much of a role did the success of the UC basketball program play in making the school attractive to the Big East?
A. We were very good in basketball before we took these five programs in. In basketball, we were fine. We wanted to go places that made sense. Coming to a large metropolitan area was important. I looked at the basketball program and said, "We don't need to talk about Cincinnati's basketball. We know what it's been. It's got an incredible tradition."
We talked about could they long-term, by being affiliated with a BCS league, have a chance to be a good football program? Everybody I talked to told me that they had a recruiting base here that they hadn't been able to draw upon.
They thought that with the right coach, the right approach and in our league that it would be successful. When we came together, it was just a matter of our presidents and (UC president) Nancy Zimpher being comfortable. We wanted to see where she was coming from. Ten minutes into the meeting, I could tell that the interaction between Nancy and the presidents was positive.Q. So was it actually the football program's potential that was the deciding factor?
A. These were the factors and they were all important: It was the basketball program, it was the potential in football, it was being in this market, and then I think our presidents had to be comfortable with Nancy, and she did a fabulous job of articulating why Cincinnati wanted to be in the league and the kind of things she was committed to doing.
Q. You know the situation with men's basketball coach Bob Huggins' contract and the controversy it has caused here. Is that a concern for the league?
A. I just don't deal in that world of whether coaches come or go or stay. It's just not my business. This is an area of institutional autonomy.
MDW79
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Done. And done.
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Juliepitzer
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You have to respect Ralphs loyalty though.
MDW79
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I 'll bet you're a used cars salesmen's dream.
Salesman: "It's got blah, blah, blah, and here's the sticker price, which is already discounted."
Ralph: "I'll take it!"
Salesman:"Would you like the bend you over needless warranty?"
Ralph: "Do I need it?"
Salesman: "Yes, we recommend it."
Ralph: "Sold."
Ralph: "So should I really get all my work done here at the dealership?"
Salesman: "Yes, we recommend it, even the oil changes 5k miles.
Ralph: "5k thousand, but the commercial for Jiffy Lube say 3k?"
Salesman: "That's actually not...nevermimd. Yes 3k"
Ralph: "Great see you in 3k miles or 3 months, whichever comes first. Pleasure doing business with you."
Salesman: "The pleasure was all mine. Enjoy your Saturn, sir."
Salesman: (to co-worker) "I finally sold the last Saturn on the lot. I couldn't believe how easy it was. The guy bought everything I told him."
