Read the article in today's Enquirer and listen to Mick on his radio show last night, you get two completely different versions as to if the game will be played next year. From his response to Dan Hoard's question last night it was quite evident that Mick wants to cancel the game.
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UCalum08
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What did Mick say to indicate that? Personally I am on the fence bc I hate X and feel we only get a fair game every other year. It seems like UC has Nothing to gain from this game.
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If the game keeps the current trend I would get rid of it.
To me it is a fan issue.
To me it is a fan issue.
The blog post from Bill Koch and eventual article seemed to change over the day. The final article seemed to indicate that there was going to be a game. On a side note, X fans have the chorus of UC is afraid to play them going already...which was to be expected. The strange part is how in unison they are about this and everything. There never seems to be a debate, which is part of the fun of message boards and sports. It's like they are the "Stepford" fans.
The best part of the article was Babcock saying "We’re looking to bring some more marquee opponents into Fifth Third (Arena). If Xavier was one of them, it would impact our schedule.” - Would be great to see some bigger names on the OOC schedule.
The best part of the article was Babcock saying "We’re looking to bring some more marquee opponents into Fifth Third (Arena). If Xavier was one of them, it would impact our schedule.” - Would be great to see some bigger names on the OOC schedule.
UCalum08
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I thought wvu fans were the worst but I have never met a fan base as classless and ignorant as X fans. I would love to completely ignore them bc they honestly aren't worth our time. They can say whatever they want but the more They talk the more it confirms They have their heads so far up their ass its not worth saving.
Probably wants to schedule Little sisters of the poor to keep with the rest of the OoC schedule.
I think canceling the game is ridiculous. Each school needs to set specific expectations of their players and then manage the game. Don't walk away from a great rivalry because you can't figure out how to manage it.
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Frankly, if Babcock can find a way to get OSU, IU, Kentucky, or Purdue on the schedule, I would be fine losing the shootout. I would rather add one of those teams AND still play X.
Mick said on his show that Koch caught Williams off guard and Williams said what he needed to say to be politically correct at the moment.
Mick also said that if the boss (Williams) said the game would be played he would have to go along. I got the distinct impression that if it were up to Mick the game would no longer be played.
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Purdue? I can understand OSU, Kentucky, maybe IU because IU looks like they are on the right path, but I don't understand Purdue.
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UC recruits against Purdue and several players early on in Mick's tenure chose Purdue over UC among others. Purdue is not having a great year this year but they have had some very good teams recently.
Obviously with WVU out of the league, that is a game we could get scheduled every year.
Indiana is better than they were last year, they're not likely to get too many kentucky-like, last second wins. They're still unable to win in conference, without homering the other team. You look at their away record and it's laughable.
That said, eventually the cards will fall the right way for them.
I still think Crean is a mediocore at best coach.
Replacing X won't be that hard. I said on another forum, we should play them next year then stop. They'll be young, we can walk over them. Don't pull the starters or take the air out of the ball either. Just completely destroy them and tell them to play neutral site or no series. They say it's just excuses, remind them UC has an 18 game lead and they'll never take one of their own.
Should shut them up. If not, tell them we have 6 final fours, 2 championships, a winning tourny record and they have none of that.
That said, eventually the cards will fall the right way for them.
I still think Crean is a mediocore at best coach.
Replacing X won't be that hard. I said on another forum, we should play them next year then stop. They'll be young, we can walk over them. Don't pull the starters or take the air out of the ball either. Just completely destroy them and tell them to play neutral site or no series. They say it's just excuses, remind them UC has an 18 game lead and they'll never take one of their own.
Should shut them up. If not, tell them we have 6 final fours, 2 championships, a winning tourny record and they have none of that.
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It'll be a sad day when the crosstown shootout is discontinued. You can argue UC doesn't need to play X, but we're missing the point. If you're confident in the Cincinnati basketball brand you want UC to play Xavier. Win or lose, we all know who garners the most attention in this city. This game is for the fans, don't screw that up.
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Dropping the Crosstown Shootout is the worst idea ever. It's such a great rivalry game, to lose it would be a disaster. Some players got in a fight, ugly moment for both programs, get over it and move on.
It's not the first time there has been a fight in this game, punches have been thrown before and I didn't see anyone back then saying we should cancel the shootout. Calling for the end of this great game is more a reflection on the current times than anything else. People are so uptight now a days it's pathetic. Everyone is ready to drop a great rivalry and great tradition because of a bad incident, what a joke.
UC fans and coaches talking about canceling the shootout sounds more like sour grapes to me than anything else.
As a UC fan the Shootout is one of the most anticipated events of the year and it's always a fun day. Hopefully a bunch of self-righteous idiots don't allow their overreactions to a bad situation to cost the fans a great rivalry.
The pussification of America continues..........
It's not the first time there has been a fight in this game, punches have been thrown before and I didn't see anyone back then saying we should cancel the shootout. Calling for the end of this great game is more a reflection on the current times than anything else. People are so uptight now a days it's pathetic. Everyone is ready to drop a great rivalry and great tradition because of a bad incident, what a joke.
UC fans and coaches talking about canceling the shootout sounds more like sour grapes to me than anything else.
As a UC fan the Shootout is one of the most anticipated events of the year and it's always a fun day. Hopefully a bunch of self-righteous idiots don't allow their overreactions to a bad situation to cost the fans a great rivalry.
The pussification of America continues..........
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I agree. It was clearly evident that Mick wants no part of it . It would hopefully free up a good non con. opponent. Did not have to hear between the lines on that one.
Quote of the year!
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I hit the wrong button. Sorry, I was agreeing with Ralph and the tone of Mick's answer on the radio show.
JasonS
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The question that has to be asked is, "What does UC gain by playing XU?" It seems to me that UC would have more to gain by playing a top school in a BCS conference like the B1G, ACC, SEC, or Big 12. Look at IU's win over UK. It may essentially get them a decent seed in the Tourney. A win over XU would not be respected like that.
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Why can't you do both? You can still play XU every year and keep the rivalry and add additional games to our non conference schedule. You don't think UK and OSU are going to look at UC right now and ask the same question about playing us that you're asking about us playing XU?
Eggs has been a pretty good team of late. A win against Eggs certainly holds more value than a win against many of the teams from the conferences you are talking about.
And then, if you are going to take that position, why would any of those upper echelon teams from those conference play us instead of UCONN, Cuse, etc?