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OOC Strength of schedule arguments are completely irrelevant. The selection committee looks at the whole body of work at the end of the season.

UC plays these (current) top 25 teams:
  • Villanova
  • Syracuse
  • Notre Dame
  • Pittsburgh
  • Louisville
  • Georgetown
  • UConn

Xavier plays these (current) top 25 teams:
  • Cincinnati

How do you think the SOSs will stack up by season's end? You know, when it matters?

Hey, by all means UC will have a better SOS at the end of the year. Xavier fans point to the weak OOC schedule as to why they are undefeated. Thats all- so why anyone would be confused as to why they would bring it up is beyond me considering how bad it actually is.

UC set themselves up where OOC means nothing for them. To get to the tournament its all how they do in the Big East- at the end of the year they will be penalized because of it- whether that means a worse seed then thought- or if on bubble they wont make it in.
 
The only thing that you keep keying in on is UC's OOC schedule.. give it about another month, then come post your little whiney ass comments and see if you have the testicular fortitude to say that UC's schedule is still so terrible. Xavier suck and your just going to have to live with it. This is UC's town and city and there is nothing X can do about it. your team is going to come out Thursday with the intent of trying to knock off a top 25 team to earn there respect and to help there schedule strength(cause we know there league is not going to help) but Uc is going to come out the big dawgs, who are going to beat Xavier like a drum, just like every little team Uc has played this year. My question is after your squad gets destroyed are you going to love reading that Cincy beat the hell out of another cupcake? because i sure will.....

At least you admit to not playing anyone good yet.

Also keep in mind Xavier was 8-5 last year-then got to the sweet 16. Have you enjoyed UC's recent success? and by that i mean the N-I-T. Look- UC was ranked last year too. what did it get them?

And 10 of the last 14 have gone to Xavier. I mean pure domination.
 
Damn, you must really hate Xavier. Wonder if people will go up in arms on this board after they did about what was said on the Xavier board. Talk about classless...

Agreed. I warned him. That was something I would expect to see on Xhoops and it won't happen here. I have removed those comments from the site.
 
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I find it a little bit funny that Xavier fans constantly bring up SOS yet they have only beat the poor teams. They might have played some better teams than UC but they have lost those games!
 
At least you admit to not playing anyone good yet.

I apologize for my memory issues, but I somewhat recall UC and XU playing a common opponent this year. Both away games if I remember correctly. Was it Miami, maybe? Perhaps you can remind me of the result of that game against a team that isn't any good. Thanks in advance.
 
At least you admit to not playing anyone good yet.

Also keep in mind Xavier was 8-5 last year-then got to the sweet 16. Have you enjoyed UC's recent success? and by that i mean the N-I-T. Look- UC was ranked last year too. what did it get them?

And 10 of the last 14 have gone to Xavier. I mean pure domination.

Heres the thing you come on this board and tell us how bad our OOC schedule is over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, the thing is none of us is arguing with you. You are completely correct, UC has played cupcakes and has destroyed them all. What do you want? we agree with you. But UC's conference schedule is light years ahead of X's and this is your guys biggest game of the year. As for UC, this is just another chance to completely destroy a cupcake team, such as yours. So before you post anymore i will answer your question, and yes up to about now we have not played the hardest schedule, but what UC has done is destroy these teams. Not only this game i cant wait to watch, but i want to go back and watch your X team beat Miami...OOOOOPPPPPSSSSSS, you guys lost that game, good for you, and by the way yes Uc has played a pretty easy schedule...
 
Im going to go ahead and sum it up for you. These are the reasons X will not win this game.PAY ATTENTION!!
1-They suck
2-X has 1 player even worth scouting
3-I think Uc passed on TUTUTUTUTUTUTUT.(hell i could score 20 a game in the A10)
4-X is a bunch of thugs who cheat there way to keeping things close.
5-Mack is a dingle berry.
6-X goes about 1 deep and thats counting the starting 5
7-you have lost every game vs a halfway decent opponent(MIAMI)
8-You screwed up by coming on this forum running your mouth. I love to see what you say come Friday morning.
9-you suck
10-Xavier and you suck...

Have a great day...
 
I love that a lot X fans are using this opportunity to bash our schedule. When damn well near all of them know enough to realize that it's meaningless, and they, OF ALL PEOPLE, have no room to talk. But, they try to take their shots anway.

Fact: X has played no one ranked to date.
Fact: UC has played no one ranked to date

Fact: As it stands UC and Temple will be X's only ranked games
Fact: As it stands, Cuse, Pitt, UConn, Nova, GT, ND, UL, GT (again) will be UC's ranked games. (Not including a SJ's team who will be ranked, is top 10 in RPI)

Fact: As it stands, X will play ZERO top 20 schools (insert obvious joke on UC)
Fact: As it stands, X will play ZERO top 15 schools, top 10, top 5.
Fact: As it stands, UC will play 6 top 20 schools
Fact: As it stands, UC will play 6 top 15 schools, 4 top 10, 2 top 5.

Fact: UC and XU share 3 common opponents in IPFW, Miami, Seton Hall.

UC - 65 IPFW - 59--------------X - 69 IPFW 59 (OT)
UC - 64 Miami - 48-------------Miami - 75 X -64
UC - 70 SH - 53-----------------X - 57 SH -52

Fact: Our conference is in general regarded as the best. It sent a record of 8 teams to the dance, first in 06, and again in 08.
Fact: The A10 is regarded as no better than the 6th conference. And has produced no more than 3 (???) teams in a given year

Fact: Our conference produced 4 Elite 8 teams just two years ago
Fact: The A10 has not produce more than a single Elite 8 in a given year, recently, if ever.

Fact: Our conference produce 2 FF teams just in the year 2008 alone
Fact: They A10 hasn't produced a FF team since well before XU was a member, and it was only 1 team, not 2, that year in 1994.

Fact: Our conference has 40 FF's
Fact: I have no idea how many the A10 has, but I'll bet it's a funny stat nonetheless. :D

Fact: Our conference produced 3 #1 seeds in 2008
Fact: The A10 hasn't produced 3 #1 seeds in it's entire history. (I think it's just St. Joes and UMASS.)


Lastly, I'd really like one of you X fans to research this for me. Seriously. Please find out how many top 10 teams you have played in the last decade, in the regular season. (Not including games against UC or obviously in the tourney.) I'd be really curious to see that number.

The reason I ask is, we could face a total of 6 top teams in this year alone, even more if you off the RPI. Now, how odd would it be, if we play more top 10 teams in a SINGLE year than you have in a DECADE, and yet, we're listening to you all complain about our schedule?

I'd say that's like a 600 pound landatee (fat girl = land manatee = landatee) calling a model fat. No joke, that's an accurate analogy. You play in the Atlantic 10! We play in the BE! Cuse, Nova, GT, Pitt, on and on vs Fordham, Duquesne, Lasalle, St. Bonaventure. Give me a break, and quick trying to bash our schedule. The conference makes up 60% of your total schedule, I suggest you look at yours sometime. Cuz it's really, really bad, and your OOC games aren't all that either, no matter what you SOS currently says.
 
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^^^first year Xavier got to the elite 8 the A-10 had two teams there. (I know you think for some reason St. Joes lost in the sweet 16, but they did in fact get to the elite 8).

We played, and got smoked, by Duke- also played tennessee a few years ago-both top 10 teams. I believe the year we played Mizzu and beat them (two years ago) they got into the top 10-but we had already beat them before that-we also Memphis got to top 15, not sure if top 10 that same year. Thats all I can remember right now- though if you want to go back to 02 they played and beat number 10 creighton. Also, they played and beat the number 1 team in the country by 25+ St. Joes the year X and St. Joes got to elite 8. (we played them twice in regular season, once in A-10 tournament) so off the top of my head X has played at least 7 top 10 teams with the possibility of 8 if Memphis was there in the last decade.
 
All right guys- lets discuss this years game. UC's defense scares me, For Xavier to win they need the score to be in the 60's at the most. They also need to hit from far and rebound hard.

X has to play one of there better games of the year if they want to come out with the W.
 
Xavier needs to have their guards hit a lot of 3's. They have been poor shooters so far this year.

I would be shocked if X got to 60 points.
 
Xavier needs to have their guards hit a lot of 3's. They have been poor shooters so far this year.

I would be shocked if X got to 60 points.

XU will get to 60 points because there will be a lot of free throws shot. This game is always called way too tightly and therefore there are way too many free throws shot. XU always seems to shoot more of them than UC does. I think UC will score in the 70s and XU will score in the low 60s.
 
^^^first year Xavier got to the elite 8 the A-10 had two teams there. (I know you think for some reason St. Joes lost in the sweet 16, but they did in fact get to the elite 8).

We played, and got smoked, by Duke- also played tennessee a few years ago-both top 10 teams. I believe the year we played Mizzu and beat them (two years ago) they got into the top 10-but we had already beat them before that-we also Memphis got to top 15, not sure if top 10 that same year. Thats all I can remember right now- though if you want to go back to 02 they played and beat number 10 creighton. Also, they played and beat the number 1 team in the country by 25+ St. Joes the year X and St. Joes got to elite 8. (we played them twice in regular season, once in A-10 tournament) so off the top of my head X has played at least 7 top 10 teams with the possibility of 8 if Memphis was there in the last decade.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying the following:

The A10 did, indeed, send 2 teams to the Elite 8, rather than 1. Ok, let me just go ahead and fix that one, hold on...

Fact: The BE sent 4 teams to the Elite in 2008 alone.
Fact: The A10 record is 2, and it was only done once.

I got that part right now, right?

On to the next part, XU MAY have played 7 top 10 teams in an entire decade. (If Memphis was not top 15, and were top 10 that number is 8)

Ok, as of right now, in one single season UC will potentially face 6 top 10 teams, which is obviously 1 less than what X faced over a 10 year span.

Mkay, I think I got those handled. And the other 15 or so fact I posted were correct I assume? I never got a debate, or any counter points. So, all in all, yeah you guys definitely have room to talk. I mean when you face 7, SEVEN, S-E-V-E-N, top 10 teams over only 10 years, you've got the nuts to back any trash talk you want about schedules. And when your current schedule features ZERO top 20 teams, by all means, let any other program who plays up to 8 or more of them, really have it.
 
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There is no sense debating over conferences at all.

UC fans have trouble hearing Xavier talk about their success because in our lifetime:

UC went to a Final Four
UC has had tons of All Americans
UC has been ranked #1 three or four different seasons
UC has been to 2 elite 8's
UC has had the top recruit in the country
UC has had the #1 over all NBA drafted player
UC has had a couple POY
UC has been invited into the premier college basketball league.

I apologize if we dont comepletely appreciate your 2 elite 8's and sweet 16's.

Say what you want about UC being down the last 5 years because we have been without a doubt. When both are strong UC has had a ton more success.
 
My prediction: UC goes into half being in a relatively close in game, maybe up b/t 2 to 6. By the 10 minute mark of the 2nd half they start to pull away a little b/c they've just worn X down, due to know depth. That lead gets stretched to 10 pts or so, going into the final minutes, and we add a few FT's as icing on the cake.

If we play uptempo and use our bench we win this game on stamina alone. (Not even factoring in we're more skilled across the board)

UC - 71
X -57
 
You can't honestly be happy about that? I think that would go down as a huge coaching blunder if he really passed on Tu. He will be the best player on the court thursday, no doubt about it.

There is doubt about it. Here are things there are no debate about.

He will the worst 3-point shooter of all guards on the court
He will lead all guards in turnovers that will be on the court
He leads all players in destroyed water fountains.

He is the best player on a average team.
 
Fact: Our conference produced 4 Elite 8 teams just two years ago
Fact: The A10 has not produce more than a single Elite 8 in a given year, recently, if ever.

Fact: Our conference produce 2 FF teams just in the year 2008 alone

You do realize the Big East has only sent 2 other teams to the final four right? And no one to the championship game. The Big East has had by far the most amount of teams by any conference in the tournament, no doubt about it. They have had 37 teams, 4 of which made the final four, none made the championship game. SEC has also made 4 final four appearances since the "new big east." They have also had 2 championships, not appearances, champions.
 
There is doubt about it. Here are things there are no debate about.

He will the worst 3-point shooter of all guards on the court
He will lead all guards in turnovers that will be on the court
He leads all players in destroyed water fountains.

He is the best player on a average team.

So who do you think is better?
 
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