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I will say this. TOSU would never retain a coach who gets beat by its biggest rival as often as we do. I gave Mick a pass for the early years but Mack is kicking his tail in his own back yard. If he can not regain our status in our city it may be time for a change.
 
you and Mick have a different opinion of what will work best for this group. If your unhappy with his game plans I suggest you call Bohn. The one thing I will say is Mick is responsible for the talent. If he can not recruit people to win it may be time for a change. That should be decided at years end not now.

Mick gets good players. Just not players that fit into the style he is hellbent on playing. Jmo.
 
Mick gets good players. Just not players that fit into the style he is hellbent on playing. Jmo.
anyone going D-1 is a good player. To beat top 10 teams and be a factor nationally we need better players. Changing his style requires better players. Your point is we can not win with this style that is not true. I could show you stats that will say different. He can not win with his players because they are not good enough. We were out manned against X.
 
I have been a big supporter of Mick's since day one. He has taken the program and moved it forward. But if he can not be the top program in his own city it may be time to move forward with some one else. Can't reign nationally if you can't dominate in your city.
 
I have been a big supporter of Mick's since day one. He has taken the program and moved it forward. But if he can not be the top program in his own city it may be time to move forward with some one else. Can't reign nationally if you can't dominate in your city.

This is a heartbreaking post. But I do agree.
 
I'm just worried that the longer Jenifer sits, the more he becomes like Mick's version of a Bearcat...which is like everyone else we've seen. Making players change their game to fit a certain style is foolish. If you can't live with Jenifer making an error of commission, don't recruit him.

Watching Mack's post game, he mentioned that the reason he recruited Sumner was not to be a Trent Dilfer. Not to just manage the offense. But to be a playmaker, therefore he has to give him some sort of leash. Why can Mick not see things like this.
 
anyone going D-1 is a good player. To beat top 10 teams and be a factor nationally we need better players. Changing his style requires better players. Your point is we can not win with this style that is not true. I could show you stats that will say different. He can not win with his players because they are not good enough. We were out manned against X.

After 10 years of watching Mick teams, I think it is.
 
I will say this. TOSU would never retain a coach who gets beat by its biggest rival as often as we do. I gave Mick a pass for the early years but Mack is kicking his tail in his own back yard. If he can not regain our status in our city it may be time for a change.

Louisville has retained Pitinio and he has lost 7 of 8 to UK.
 
Let the season play out first. I do agree that his coaching of this particular team has been poor. BTW Louisville has been dominated by Kentucky since Cal got there but they seem fine nationally.
Good point. But I think Louisville is the exception and not the rule.
 
I guess I'm angry. But to say this game doesn't matter is ridiculous. Especially for a native Cincinnatian to say that. Tell that to the alum or the students or donors. Certainly it means little if you go on to have a great tourney run but for the people who support this program and give their money, his comments were very much out of line. Why does he think it sells out every year? I understand it can not define the season but to say it doesn't matter is silly.
 
Early in the season there were "2" people in here who suggested a plan to "transition" our way out of giving Troy Caupain the keys to the car. He is, and has been, a weak answer to solving a problem that we've had since Mick Cronin became our coach. We never have a true point guard, and that has always been a major problem with our lack of a well functioning offense. That was not a call for immediately inserting Jenifer into the starting lineup. That was a call for him to get significant minutes now, which would hopefully lead to increasing minutes down the road. For a while, he was getting decent minutes. When he stopped getting minutes, the team stopped looking good. The change in style and pace and the look of the offense when Jenifer comes in is very apparent. Terrance Gibson was one of our greatest examples of a guy who came off the bench and energized our team all the way to the Final 4. If you let Caupain have the lions share of the minutes, we're destined to be the same low efficiency offense that we've seen for Mick's complete tenure. I might even add, Caupain is 2-19 shooting 3s in the last two games. Is he our answer at the 2-spot either? Hard to say, but he definitey isn't the long term solution at the PG position. Jenifer needs minutes.....period.....and not just single digit minutes.

As far as the coach, it's been 10 years now. That's been a long enough time to rally our fan base and make us a major player in college basketball again. Our fans aren't rallying. We're not a major player even in our own state, and we're now "solidly" number 2 even in our own city. Two 3-game losing streaks to X in 10 years. A bunch of 1st and 2nd round defeats in March. Poor recruiting. No NBA players. Even when he starts recruiting better, he quickly abandons a strategy to upgrade the offense and returns to the same old tired slow down strategy we've seen for 10 years.

Some have seen all this for years. Based on this thread, a lot more are finally starting to come in out of the fog. I loved all the changes early in the year, believed recruiting was on the rise, therefore, I have barely mentioned the head coach question. But, these recent developments are bringing that topic back to the forefront again. Again, my feelings are that 10 years are a more than fair chance. I don't see things changing much.
 
Early in the season there were "2" people in here who suggested a plan to "transition" our way out of giving Troy Caupain the keys to the car. He is, and has been, a weak answer to solving a problem that we've had since Mick Cronin became our coach. We never have a true point guard, and that has always been a major problem with our lack of a well functioning offense. That was not a call for immediately inserting Jenifer into the starting lineup. That was a call for him to get significant minutes now, which would hopefully lead to increasing minutes down the road. For a while, he was getting decent minutes. When he stopped getting minutes, the team stopped looking good. The change in style and pace and the look of the offense when Jenifer comes in is very apparent. Terrance Gibson was one of our greatest examples of a guy who came off the bench and energized our team all the way to the Final 4. If you let Caupain have the lions share of the minutes, we're destined to be the same low efficiency offense that we've seen for Mick's complete tenure. I might even add, Caupain is 2-19 shooting 3s in the last two games. Is he our answer at the 2-spot either? Hard to say, but he definitey isn't the long term solution at the PG position. Jenifer needs minutes.....period.....and not just single digit minutes.

As far as the coach, it's been 10 years now. That's been a long enough time to rally our fan base and make us a major player in college basketball again. Our fans aren't rallying. We're not a major player even in our own state, and we're now "solidly" number 2 even in our own city. Two 3-game losing streaks to X in 10 years. A bunch of 1st and 2nd round defeats in March. Poor recruiting. No NBA players. Even when he starts recruiting better, he quickly abandons a strategy to upgrade the offense and returns to the same old tired slow down strategy we've seen for 10 years.

Some have seen all this for years. Based on this thread, a lot more are finally starting to come in out of the fog. I loved all the changes early in the year, believed recruiting was on the rise, therefore, I have barely mentioned the head coach question. But, these recent developments are bringing that topic back to the forefront again. Again, my feelings are that 10 years are a more than fair chance. I don't see things changing much.

Save your breath Caupain is and will be the pg this year and next year, jenifer will get single digits the rest of the year! If you have listened to Mick he has said Caupain is one of the best pg in the country, it's not going to change its Micks team get use to it.....
 
Well,well, well, Let's see here...16 turnovers, 5 minutes scoring droughts, 4 points in the final 5 minutes, 4 turnovers in a row when down by 6, 5th year senior who dribbles out of balance.....Yep mighty mick is back as UC head coach.

Amazing the clowns who want tubbs fired will support 10 years of this garbage mick puts on the floor year after year.

Congrats UC fans, We are the second best program in our city. 8 of the last 11 has went to X. Can't win at home, can't win on the road, and can only get a split on a neutral court. And most of those games UC was ran out of the gym.

Let's here all the final four and deep tourney runs now? Or how much recruiting is getting better, since Mick got lucky and has a fringe top 50 player coming in next year. Other top players have came here and are carving out a nice career in a country they can't speak in. His best player is a d-league superstar so he has that going for him.

Ten years of this has turned this program into a joke and we can't hide it or say it isn't true anymore.
 
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